This arrived today and I must say,the FMIC does look very good.
Have to say though,the thought of bolting a million pipes together and trying to fit it behind the bumper is frightening.
Anybody know if there is an idiots guide to fitting this bit of kit
Thanks,
Paul

somewhere in the how to's pal.
Get pics up when done!

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=638643&page=1

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=953813&page=1

Cheers Marco.....a true gent
Paul

so im told!!

he he

Don't think it was that funny

lol it was

Ok....maybe just a bit then......nah,it was comical I have to be fair

Just you wait till the AGM mate...

Me Nick and Mario have a surprise for you!!!




cheeky bugger!!

Ah AGM time...

Cannot wait eh Proccy

i think the look on his face will be....

a rather acquired taste!!!

lol

all 3 of you eh? i don't like your odds....

Oh but you will love the surprise!!!

No neither do we, we know what your like. Needless to say we are all gentlemen so expect the worst from you!

Back on topic
Just checked the kit out and the FMIC outlets are 3 inch and all the silicon hoses steel pipework supplied are 2.5 inch.
This does not sound right to me.......there is no way any of the hoses will fit over the FMIC outlets.
Help.
Paul

Drop me your number on PM and I will call you to help you out!!

Hi Marco,
There are 2 pieces missing mate which RMJ just confirmed.
I will have to get hold of Turbo revs........good job I checked.
paul

I have made the bracket today and plan on fitting the FMIC without pipework over the weekend (have 2 reducers missing).
If it is ok,I will put up drawings with dimensions of the bracket and maybe later a "how to do".
See how it goes.
Paul

look forward to seeing how you get on with this

Here is the bracket I made today in work (in my spare time ;)).
If it fits,I will post dimensions.....which I could have done with before taking the grill off to measure up but there you go.......lol.
The spray is a no no on mild steel and maybe better off with thicker stuff from a pot.
Paul

just the same as mine only i painted mine better

Leon,if you had put the dimensions of the bracket up,I would not have had to take my grill off to measure up myself......you bad boy
I will get some proper paint tomorrow but the engineering is spot on mate.
Excellent idea BTW mate.
Paul

first time I've looked at this thread i think

I have lots asking for the info on this peice of kit so my idea is to measure up the bracket,fit the kit and try to do a guide mate.......see how it goes.
Have to be fair,the FMIC looks one good peiec of kit though ?
Paul

yes it is good, a little on the heavy side though. So how did you route your pipe work?

Not done it yet mate.
Made the bracket out of 25mmx6mm flat.
I am still waiting for the 2 reducers they forgot to put in the kit so I will just fit the FMIC and cut the bumper and refit ready.
I will then put it on ramps and sort it out then......I will be roughing up the ends of the pipes with a file though.
When I did the same with my mr2 turbo,the pipes blew off and had to get the AA out......that WILL not be happening again matey.
Paul
Paul

do not take it under the radiator support like many people have unless you don't go over speed bumps

I did do a post bout fitting one. because i wanted some help when i was fitting mine but was takeing off lol. anyway.. i done what leon 1 said and put my pipe under the radiator support not the best place to put because i have got speed bumps down my road so have to go over them a bit slow. but happy with the kit.

I have given up with these and will pay lots more to get a coupe specific FMIC and you may ask why ?
I bought the kit from ebay and when it came,it had the 2 reducers missing,which RMJ kindly pointed out.
Got hold of them and they realised the mistake and would send them out so no big deal.
Checked kit again and the 2 U bends were missing.
I contacted them and was told that there are plenty of of bends included without the U bends to do the job
I replied that I would prefer the U bends as they were shown in their ad and it would save me chopping even more pieces up.
Reply.....wherehouse is empty of U bends.
I know it is a cheap (over £200) piece of kit but you expect to get what they show in the picture.
I have now asked,nicely for a refund.
Paul

theres alot of us that have used this kit without problems seems your just unlucky

I know Leon.
I'll send you the correspondence and you can see if I was unfair mate.
Give me an honest opinion.
Paul

i'd just make do with what you have and ask them to knock some money off as its not advertised correctly. Depends if you have the money to spend on a pro alloy as its a big price hike.

I did accept the problem with the reducers Leon,that was no big deal but when I was told to cut up a couple of 90's to make a U bend.....I lost it.
It is not the easiest of Kits to fit (even with the correct U bends) and I can use tools mate but I did not want to spend any longer chopping up more pieces than I had to.
I paid for the kit that was in the picture,U bends included (you saw the mail) and was told to make do with the bits they sent me.
Not good enough with me mate......you pay good money....you want the goods you pay for.

Paul

ok mate just get the proalloy

Did they send you 4 L's to make up for the 2 U's?

If not, that's quite shabby of them.

If they did, quit yer belly achin'!

I've had trouble with a Turborevs FMIC also, the package arrived missing the two 180-degree hard pipes, seller claimed he'd sent two extra 90-degree ones, which he hadn't, offered to order them in for me and email a picture, which never happened.
It was also missing the clamps to secure the two reducers to the 3-inch outlets, and there is a fair bit of denting to the intercooler core itself, enough that I'm not confident that it'll hold pressure.
The seller's response was minimal and unsatisfactory, he's now telling me to send it back, which I will, but according to his Ebay info I'll have to pay the postage (which may be the case for Ebay but it's unacceptable for a defective item) and "admin" costs, which I can only assume is extra profit for him, as how much "admin" is involved in receiving a parcel?
I'm hugely unhappy with my purchase, and would advise anyone to avoid this seller like the plague, item would be suitable if it was undamaged and contained all the item described, but it wasn't and didn't.
I've seen at least one other thread on here where people have had similar problems.

The seller is now insisting that the kit is complete, I'm in the process of getting Ebay to resolve it, and he's reverted to lying by saying that nothing is missing, despite the fact that he admitted to me via Ebay's message service that they were missing and offered to send a picture of the replacements he was going to order.

It will look like someting out of super mario bros. when you have finished it

He's now refusing to acknowledge the missing items, and is trying to get me to send it back, which will cost me the price of postage plus his "admin" cost, I can only assume that he's doing this because he can sell it to someone else, and make a bit of extra profit out of me from this "admin" charge.

I decided to keep mine as it was too much hassle to send it back and it would have cost me a packet.
He did eventually send me the reducers that were missing but still have to butcher up a few 90's to make a couple of U bends.
It is a good kit though all the same.
I am still trying to get the correct U bends so have not given up yet.
Can you post a picture of your damaged cooler.....my one was fine ?

I can't take a picture of it as it's at my parents house, it's not hugely damaged, just dented on the front in a few places, rough handling I guess, it was pretty poorly packaged.
If you want I can take one at the weekend when I go there next?
I'm trying to get the clamps and pipes now, if he's not willing to send them then I'll ask Ebay to step in and deal with it, as he's obviously decided to be deliberately difficult, terrible customer service!

I am in work now but later,I will take a picture of all the gear I recieved so you have a better idea of what parts of your kit are missing mate.
The dents on the cooler are probably just the fins so if that is the case,should still be ok.

i'm a bit surprised at this given there've been loads of GB's of their stuff especially hids. i had one less than pleasant experience but eventually they put it right

Stack it high, sell it cheap.

I should say the intercooler works fine, a touch on the heavy side but it cools just as well as a Pro Alloy.

Thanks for that mate, it'll be helpful to know what exactly is missing! I did receive everything in the picture except for the u-bends and the clamps, but it'll be interesting to see if I'm missing anything else (and if you are)
The dents are on the fins (I think) so hopefully that'll be ok, I'm just appalled by the complete lack of service, especially from someone who seems to sell a lot of products on this forum, you'd think reputation would be important to the guy, apparently not!

Here is the kit they sent me.
The brackets were made by me and the large ties,nuts and bolts were also supplied by me.
Paul

So how does it fit??

Have you chopped the bumper yet??

not yet mate.....only got the reducers a few days ago.

what are the tie clips for you shouldnt need them

Just in case mate.
Might make it easier to lash it place to measure the pipe work.They can be removed then.

All done glad to say although without the U bends,it did have to be lashed a bit but because it is booked in with Leighton next,had no choice.I will get it all sorted later though.
Also had to get an alloy rad fitted....it is never ending



Marvelous as well...my silicon hoses came today....a bit late and not much good to me any more and I am also stuck with a very good standard GT28


ps....paul_H.....the brackets fit ok mate and I will post yours out before the weekend

Cheers Paul

looks like most of the hoses should still fit, will finish off the engine bay and then ebay the rest, get back some pennies

why are them hoses no good to you? If they are the turbo side of things and you only have an hybrid they should still fit.

Which route did you take for cooler to turbo

Because they won't all fit.
The pipes are a bit low too but I am trying to get some U bends which will help.

should of taken it the way i have you'll never have any problems

alloy pipe here
http://www.gt3turbo.com/Merchant/home.php?cat=371

got it sorted mate off turbo revs....just waiting on them

Hi Leon,
Done like this.
Ps.....Turbo revs are sending me 2 U bends and I just pay the postage charges...£12 which aint bad.
Happy with the FMIC....only not having U bends let it down.

jeeesus thats very low! an far forward my bracket is higher also and the left hand pipe is going to be a pain in the ass over bumps!

Next time my bumper is off i'll post a picture up

Cheers Leon.
I will be raising it when I get chance.
Just have to take it easy over speed bumps.

Leon1 im still very very interested in how you managed to route the left hand side pipe almost upwards! to increase ground clearance issues etc any chance you could describe how you managed it?

my turbo pipe is rather low....have to be careful over speed bumps.

Same here!, i want to get the bumper off today and do some re-routing of the pipes!

I have taken a U bend from the reducer and angled it infront of the intercooler and upwards also, so it fits in the large recess where you're number plate is, then a straight section downwards then the rest you can work out.

This is a longer route to the turbo but you do not have any clearance issues, also flea said it didn't affect the spool up on my old hybrid turbo

quite a poor edit of the picture but you get the idea

ohhhhh, i think i know what youve done!, where have you routed the pipe back to the turbo? any under bonnet pics? also do you have a SIP??

yes i'll go get you some pics now bit im not taking the bumper off lol

Thanks mate, much appreciated,go on pretty please!

Need to get that bunper off Leon so we can see how you did it mate
I have got my time to remove it down to 5 minutes.....done it so many times with this kit

yes i can remove it quickly i just cannot be bothered lol.

come on Leon.....you know you want to really

all you'll see is a straight pipe. I don't think you'll be able to do it as your intercooler is to far forward going by your pictures

The only way it would go any further back is if I chopped all the brackets off the front of the car infront of the rad.....that seemed a bit drastic mate.
It is not too bad and I spoke to marco and he did his the same.

I cut mine off you see

you got more bottle than me mate

is there anything left holding the frame together

well its bolted by 2 bolts either side its doesn't move its sturdy

only jesting matey

I bet you put that horribley huge dump valve I sold you on as well

i bought a dv off you?

That huge thing....you only wanted the flange....remember ?
Paul

oh yes, I binned that pal as i only needed the flange for my hks dv

I was jesting...again
That was fitted to the car when I bought it......it was the loudest dump valve I have ever heard.
I replaced it with a Bailey.
When flea saw it in the boot.....he said "tell me you are not fitting that".....honestly.
Paul

im now currently re-routing my pipe work and it seems to be going very well i dont see how im going to manage to fit my pro alloy SIP though, the right hand intercooler pipe is in the way

Can you post pics Rob when you are done....without the bumper on....lol.
Be nice to see another way of doing the pipes.
Paul

sure, just uploads the before pics, so you can see my SIP dilema too! wont be long and the after pics ill up load too

these are in the way lol, how have you guys routed your pipes so you can fit a SIP???

cheers buddy

flip that right cooler pipe over infront of the ic and point it upwards then go right along the recess then back down.

how my SIP fits around the pipe work

That's a tight fit Leon.

my girlfiend says that too with a high pitched voice...strange

niceeeeeeeeeeeeee
Anyway,maybe later on,the mods can clean this thread up a bit and it can be made into a sticky for peeps fitting one of these kits.
I wish I had this info before I started anyway.
Paul

now im really stuck, ive just fitted my SIP but cant find a way of routing the pipe from the throttle body back to the intercooler

Please can some one help. heres lots of pics ive just taken so you have a better idea on what position im in

heres what i've done

if anymore pictures are needed the bumpers still off while i eat my frosties so let me know asap

perfect :), thanks alot mate , could you get a pic from the engine bay looking downwards at where the pipe is routed from the throttle body hard pipe to the intercooler

anymore needed?

Thats spot on mate. thanks for that, ill get all the piping and joiners back out and see what i can do! il post up pics once its done hopefully this thread can really help someone else when they come to fitting the kit.

Wernt the air con pipes on the right hand side ofthe rad in the way?????

you can slide the pipe past them

The only thing we moved was the earth strap which you can see in my pictures is now located beside my alarm siren

That looks weird


Have a look at my PA IC. The right pipe goes from turbo to intercooler and the left one goes from IC to throttle.


Can't you mount the pipe behind the IC as seen in picture ?

You can't get the left pipe above the rad supports.
I had to run my pipe underneath......no other way to do it.
Paul

As above, is because the exit o. The left hand side of the pro alloy is higher up and curved where as the turbo revs is straight and pretty much at the bottom. Just about to load up some pics of my new set up!

freddan... can you put some pics up of the left hand exit from the FMIC please?

very happy with my new set up, soo much more ground clearance, and i now have a SIP

only thing im frustrated about is the fitment of the front bumper, almost as though it needs stretching.

Excellent pics mate and very,very helpful.
Will a standard bumper fit over that pipe infront of the IC mate ?

Rob,the turbo made 290 after
I am now trying to get a stage 3.

i have a standard bumper and it fits fine over the pipe

290 is still good! what was the torque? what exhaust system have you got? what power do you want?

290 is fine mate and will have to wait to get the sheets off Leighton to see the torque
I wanted to hit the magic 300 but will get that when I finally find a stage 3.
I have a blue flame race cat system mate.
I will have to move that pipe though the same as you and Leon have done.

i know the feeling mate, I made 297bhp, was gutted well not really but i wanted the magic 300 too, thats why im going all out this time and getting the car setup with a very healthy engine and decent breathing mods including a stage 3 hybrid.

the last thing I need is either a new 2.75" down pipe or to go all out and get a turbo-back blue flame system.

Go for the blueflame mate although they are pretty expensive.
I went with the race cat and could have got a cheaper decat system.

I was always interested why not use the intercooler with the inlet and outlet on one side! In my car is fitted this intercooler and is very good and one pipe is quite short.

That looke very small.
What are the temps like ?

Clicky:
PA FMIC

glad you sorted it rob

Thanks again mate, I owe you a drink or two! Pm me your address and I'll get that turbo coolant hose in the post to you

What extra pieces did you have to use Rob to take it front ways to the turbo ?
Paul

It's hard to remember mate! Long day lol! It was a 90degree pipe, u cut in half u bend and two 90degree blue hoses, oh and a 45degree up to the standard pipe in engine bay and a bit of straight pipe to the actual turbo pipe. Hope that helps!

cheers Rob

Please oh please make this a sticky after some editing, the pictures speak a 1000 words and whilst turbo revs arent the flavour of everyone the pics give a good idea of what you have to work with, and just what i needed.
many thanks

Just tried fitting mine, bought it second hand from Joe78. It's too low, the pipe that runs under the rad support is far too low, I can't get it off the drive, left a big dint in the concrete when I tried I'm going to have to route it like RMJ and Leon. Also Joe ran a SIP and thus the right hand pipe has been routed to the inlet where the normal airbox would be. HEADACHE!
I notice everyone seems to have a straight bit of metal to use to mount the I/C onto the metal just under the slam panel. Did this come with the kit? as I don't have anything similar, just two rectantular pieces of metal that don't seem to fit anywhere

nope I made the support and painted mine aswell

Here is how I did mine:

Turborevs FMIC mounted,did a couple of adjustments to pipework and here is the end result,also find out that my S turbo hose had a large cut,so I did replace it with one 90 degre elbow and the leftover of the original hose.
Oil and water temps dropped down dramatically,car spools up pretty good considering that it is a rather large FMIC,at 3000rpm over 1bar boost.

Thanks for those photos Al_Galone, I am sorely tempted. Don't think it will make much of a difference with STD turbo though.(apart from more lag).

No problems glad I can help anyway,because I was in search of photos when I installed mine and know how much it means!

If you are up to any tuning this is really nice kit to buy for a small amount of money!
I havent noticed that is any lagyyer then before,spool up is really nice!

I know this is an old thread but it has greatly helped me with fitting my Turborevs inter-cooler. Thought I would update it to say I bought this 180 deg silicone bend...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLUE-SILICONE-...=item43a7d34e55

This additional bend allowed me to run the pipework the same as the Pace FMIC with no other additional parts needed and not have the need for running the pipework either in front of the FMIC or under the radiator support, which really is too low.

Balls im about to fit my evo inter cooler and it looks like that is a much neater route using the 180 bend I'd rather not go.under the rad for fear of breaking something on a speed bump etc

I managed to fit a hard U pipe in and to exact route fits very snug

Am also putting mine in the "very snug" category. Unfortunately the 20VT undertray has a section that comes up a few inches between the radiator and the bumper so had to trim slightly!