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KW suspension kit #754109
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When you buy a KW kit variant 1 or 2 do you need anything extra for installation or is it a plug and play installation?

I'm not sure if I buy variant 1 or 2. Anyone here that uses the V2?
Is it just damper adjustment that is different between V1 and V2?
Is it easy to adjust the dampers, especially the rear dampers on V2?

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I cant remember if its the KW's but i remember that you might need to change the Top Mounts aswell.

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Luke has V2's I think. You need Bravo top mounts to fit them.

I think the rear shocks are Koni adjustables (could be talking rubbish though) so would need dropped to adjust them?


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You'll need the Bravo top mount as said above.

The fronts use a Koni insert and the rears are a complete Koni damper that does kind of make you question the very high price but they are a good setup \:\)

Oh and the rears are a pain in the ass to adjust, you need to jack the car up, remove the lower damper bolt, push the damper fully in and then turn the damper to adjust them.
Not something you can do at the roadside \:\(

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Lucifer also has them on his Plus \:\)

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they seamed good when i went in his car but it was wet so could get a great idea of the grip but it stayed flat and was bumpy and hard but not un pleasent to be fair i haver had coilover on othercars and they where alot worse.

seamed a good setup but i think they are abit to expensive for what they are

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I was hoping that the rear would be easy to adjust.
Maybe I go for Variant 1.

Do you think AA has Bravo top mount?


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To be honest Freddan, I just set my rear Koni's at the middle adjustment point and left them there, there's no need to keep altering them unless your going on the track.

I'm sure AA will be able to find a set of the Bravo top mounts.
http://www.spangerum.com:7080/navi?MOD_C...COD=0&DRW_NUM=2

Items 5 and 7 are needed.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/James_Hardwick/KW4.jpg

As in the KW instruction manual.

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Thanks for the info Jimbo.

Do you adjust the front or do you also leave them alone?


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I never used the Koni fronts, I had the OSRAV adjustable dampers that Nigel now runs, didn't really play with damper settings at the front either though. I did when they were first fitted until I found the setting I liked then they stayed like that \:\)

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 Originally Posted By: Freddan72
Thanks for the info Jimbo.

Do you adjust the front or do you also leave them alone?
freddan the v2's are awesome i think espeacially with the bravo top mounts (Flea loves how my car handlesand he thinks its perfect for road use and would be great ontrack ;\) )

you can adjust the front easily enough \:\)

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I finally killed Jimbo's Osrav fronts last year, when the internals collapsed

However, they were pretty good (especially considering what I paid for them ; )

I could go from soft and bouncy to rock hard with a couple of turns of the adjuster

As Jimbo said earlier though, adjusting the rears is a right PITA, so I don't bother. I followed Jimbo's advice and set the rears to medium and that's where they've stayed since the day they were fitted. I've done several TOTB events, but I just can't be bothered faffing to change the damping. All I want is for the rear to follow the front, but I accept that if the rear damping adjustment was lots easier, it might be possible to control understeer a bit more, in a similar way to fitting an uprated rear ARB

What we REALLY need is shocks with remote damping adjustment - electric or manual, not fussed. It would be really great to set it to soft for my daily commute along Coventry's suburbia (I'm sure that half the roads are exactly as the Germans left them in '45). A flick of a switch could then dial in some more damping so I could go 'playing' ;\)


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Are the OSRAVS inserts or whole dampers/struts?

If so do you think they might fit in FK struts?

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I have also got a good offer on K sport coilovers. I just wonder how they are compared to KW. K sport has camber adjusted top mount so a little bonus there. What do you think about them?


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not the same build on the k sport as they are just a remade d2 coilover and i had them on my first skyline and they are way to hard and a bit crap

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OSRAV are replacement sports dampers, not inserts. I got them from Italy when there wasn't anything available in the UK for the coupe. Very well made and good adjustment of bump and rebound together.

They won't fit in the FK strut Chris, there's an nitrogen schrader valve on the side of them that sticks out.

Nigel, my ledas have external adjustment on the bottom side of the damper so really easy to adjust clicky .

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There is another option - which is the suspension I run. It's not cheap (although I think cheaper than the Gaz stuff worked out at) and possibly a bit too extreme for road use for most people.


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Is that the Australian Kit Matt ?

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Hotbits stuff- from Malaysia if I’m remembering correctly.


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Ah yes, the external adjustable kit, v nice and trick \:\)

How are you finding it now you've had it on for a good while ?

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Pretty good. It’ll have to be coming off at some point for a service – it’s been at least 25k miles I’ve done on it now I think. It’s good. It’s just such a shame the roads are rubbish – it never fails to amaze though how much difference you can feel just by tweaking the damping adjustment a couple of clicks this way or that. The bushes in the rear shocks were rubbish though, and pretty much disintegrated – been replaced with powerflex ones now so that’s fine.


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I think a polyurathane bush is a must if you have stiff rear dampers.
Your right about the adjustment, I only have mine on about click 4 of 24 for normal driving, any more and it becomes really firm.

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I had accidentally been driving around with the rears turned up fully stiff for the past few months. \:D

To get back somewhere close to the original topic, I think adjustable damping is an extremely useful thing. Ok, you might only adjust it very occasionally but it allows you to get the car set up how YOU want it to feel.


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 Originally Posted By: Jimbo
OSRAV are replacement sports dampers, not inserts. I got them from Italy when there wasn't anything available in the UK for the coupe. Very well made and good adjustment of bump and rebound together.
Do you have a part number? Which one did you buy, the KSA or KGA?


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I think they were the KGA, infact looking at the pictures they were the KGA as they came in that nice orange colour \:\)
I used them with the Eibach springs, a nice combination.

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Where is the adjustment for the dampers? Pretty dificult to see on the pic.


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On the top of the damper, so it will be under the bonnet in the top mount at the front and on the bottom of the damper at the rear IIRC.

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So you don't need to take of the wheels when you adjusting the rear damper?


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I still have the Osrav rear dampers in my shed - they haven't done very many miles at all - IIRC, Jimbo pulled them off and fitted Konis, as they were better in some way (or was it that you thought there was a problem with the Osravs, but it turned out to be something else?)


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I think I tried to re-charge the nitrogen in them but had the damper the wrong way round so ended up with a puddle of green damper oil on my shoes ?
Thinking back Freddan, I think the adjustment was at the top of the damper on the rear, Nigel can confirm this if he's still got them in his shed.

Now Im not sure if they can be run inverted, some dampers can, some can't. If they can, then you could press the bushes out of them and swap them around as the top bush hole is smaller than the lower one. You could even fit powerflex bushes for the ultimate damper \:\)

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