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Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 18:17
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I know the 4x4 coupe thread rears it head from time to time anyway but i have been under the impression that 4x4 was something that only 16valvers can do???
But it has been suggested that the degra 4x4 system would mount onto the 20vt lump ok???
Can this be confirmed by you lot?
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:08
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It is possible. Speak to Torque Italia.
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:09
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the gearbox can be fitted, i am quite confident of that but what about the transfer boxs etc etc???
will custm drive shafts etc be needed?
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:22
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wont call torque italia, its only a chat on here for now, and if (thats a big IF) i thought it was worth doing then maybe i would make a call or two not worth wasting barbzs time atm.
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:28
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plus i am sure there are enough people on here that know
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:37
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the 6speeder wouldnt be strong enough after a while if you dumped the clutch and all the wheels were digging in for grip.
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:39
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Basically it can be done, but you need to find a degra (sp) and get the full running gear.
Ross
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 19:47
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has been done in Greece, and they used the running gear off a Alfa 155 Q4 (driveshafts, gbox, suspension etc) Boot floor needs moding (flattening it out as in removing the sparewheel) fuel tank was custom.
Obviously cannot use a late 6speed box, you need as paddy says a 4wheel drive box to start with and iirc the delta is not ideal as you have to shift the engine to the side else the propshaft is not in the right place or something...
A couple of months ago there were some photos posted from an Italian conversion as well.
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 20:33
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What is a degra? Dont you mean Dedra? But yes, you can have a 20vt engine, with 5 speed box and 4wd as per this tipoThe 4wd system works by having a diff on the gearbox, then a front prop shaft which is mounted on the back middle of the engine, then you have the rear propshaft
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 21:37
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All it has for an exhaust is a bent pipe lol!!
Stupidinly quick and nice manifold as well, looks like an RS or GT30 turbo and nice big front mount. From what i can see the front end has been remade in part to hold it all which should make it all nice and stiff as well.
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 22:12
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a fiat coupe 20v turbo plus has been moded to greece to a 4x4 ,details will be given in a couple of weeks..... o-60-->3,9 sec!!!!!!!!!!! more info on parts used and how to is coming.....
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06/02/2007 23:13
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What dort of cost would you be looking at for this? I love the 16v tipo and that one in the vid is awesome!
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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06/02/2007 23:53
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depends on your budget and how much of it you would do yourself? I have done the turbo engine in the tipo, just not the 4wd
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
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Re: Degra 4x4 system on 20vt??? anyone heard of this?
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07/02/2007 00:58
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Keith at Auto Integrale has been out in the Greek 20vt Coupe 4x4. Apparently "its a lot of work", take it from me, that means minimum 5 figures in Keith talk
We were thinking of going 4x4 with the kappa, but in Keith's words again "even you're (meaning me) not that nuts"
BIG job, one of the biggest. This from the guy who paid for the Yntegrale build (full integrale drivetrain in a Y10)
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07/02/2007 02:10
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This from the guy who paid for the Yntegrale build (full integrale drivetrain in a Y10) haven't seen any pictures of a Y10 4X4 any chance? cheers V.
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07/02/2007 13:04
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haven't seen any pictures of a Y10 4X4 any chance?
cheers
V.
Yntegrale build story (it goes a bit) and pics hereStandard Y10 4x4 (I've got one of them as well) details start here
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08/02/2007 04:11
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its a tangerine meen machine. got some vid's nyssa
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