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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
[Re: H_R]
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01/11/2017 16:40
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Forgot about that post 2 years has flown by! I was only interested in the asthectics side of things as i was fitting 17" wheels Actually i did get a set of the holy grail alfa Brembos, but couldn't be bothered with the hassle so sold them on What im after now, due to you Nigel! is the Fiat 500 Abarth discs that you sourced that are a direct fit, again mainly for aesthetics!
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
[Re: H_R]
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02/11/2017 09:24
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Ive just got a set through and talking to a supplier on a cheaper deal at the moment but they are very expensive unless you find a set of used centres then buy after market outers and bobbings etc
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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02/11/2017 13:50
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My setup is probably a bit more extreme than most, but I can get the front tyres to squeal from over 150mph without locking up.
Yeah, but your tyres are only fairly serious...
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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02/11/2017 18:51
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Ive just got a set through and talking to a supplier on a cheaper deal at the moment but they are very expensive unless you find a set of used centres then buy after market outers and bobbings etc I'd be interested to know more about those when you know more - I'm trying to stick to OE wheels!
Andy
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
[Re: H_R]
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03/11/2017 11:11
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So that's £502.80 inc P&P and VAT. I'm looking in Germany and have seen them for what I hope is £380 all in, which makes it pretty tempting...
What pads are you using Nigel? I know, I shouldn't be asking a "what brake pads" question, second only to "what oil"...
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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03/11/2017 15:37
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Oof! - £380 is a pretty good price Still expensive compared to what I paid - I got them for £375 delivered, which included a set of Punto Abarth rear discs and Brembo front pads - by the time I'd sold these on, the front discs cost me a net £200 - should have bought more.... Dave - I use Pagid Yellow Straight bolt-on for the 20VT Actually, I'll elaborate on that statement - the discs are only bolt-on if you have aftermarket front hubs, which are slightly smaller than OE Check out this thread for details (all photos now dead, sorry)
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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03/11/2017 20:45
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Thanks Nigel, I am confuzzled too. As far as I can tell the OE discs and floating discs have the same 59mm hub "centering" diameter and all other critical dimensions look fine? Edit: Ah I see, it's the OD of the hub flange at > 127mm that's the problem? Your linked thread still contains what look like the original file names (before Photof***it adds a load of random characters at the end) so for the whole thread these are the names: Coupefloatingdiscs DSCF0525 DSCF0529 DSCF0528 DSCF0523 hubs DSCF0583 DSCF0584 DSCF0585 DSCF0586 DSCF0587 DSCF0600 DSCF0601 DSCF0626 DSCF0625 Solid disc Floating disc
Last edited by DaveG; 03/11/2017 20:47. Reason: Hub flange problem, right?
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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03/11/2017 23:09
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Ah I see, it's the OD of the hub flange at > 127mm that's the problem?
Yes - that was the main problem (other than the fact I originally used Punto floating discs with 4 x 100 and a 59mm center bore - the 500 discs have the correct 4 x 98 and a 58mm center bore)
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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08/11/2017 22:59
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So I am still confused. I took off a front brake disc tonight to look at the hub and steering knuckle behind. The OD of the hub flange looked to be 116mm measured from PCD 98mm plus 9mm to edge from centre of bolt hole, and this matches the OD shown for replacement hubs (sometimes 118mm). But this will easily fit inside the floating disc where the appropriate measurement is 127mm. The only problem I could see would be if any part of the outer edge of the steering knuckle in which the hub sits would foul the back part of the floating disc? The closest point at which this could be a problem is near where the track rod end attaches, shown by the tape measure here and if the rear face of the disc is further back from the inner face that sits on the hub by more than around 32mm then I can see there might be a problem, but that assumes the "hole" for the hub is 118mm diameter whereas it is 127mm, so the rear face can sit further back than that. In fact the rear face of the floating disc is a maximum 10mm at 127mm diameter and 38mm at 193mm diameter. In other words, I think it should indeed bolt straight on?
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Re: 330mm calipers and or radial mounts
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09/11/2017 08:19
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I'd better check the other side too, but AFAIK the hubs are the original ones. A trial fit would be great, thanks, using MyHermes looks to cost a tenner, I will send a PM later.
1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus 1985½ & 2016 2017 Fiat 124 Spider + XF Sportbrake
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