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Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 00:24
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I'm having a 'discussion' about the alleged superiority of a Mac (eg iPad) especially for 'doing anything creative'.
Any opinions on what this might mean, and whether it's true?
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 00:29
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A good workman never blames his tools - both are tools neither makes you more creative or facilitates creativity. You use whatever device as a tool... creativity is that of the user. Anyone who says that using Device A or B makes them more creative or enables them to be more creative is just using it as an excuse for their "lack of" IMO... Apps are available across most platforms now... so in reality all we are talking about is a piece of Tin... which makes the statement even more hilarious
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 00:51
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For photos, videos, addresses, general googling and portability iPads are great. For more serious use, because somehow the previous post is invisible to me, I'd go for a Mac(Book) every time as it's clear, clean and tends to be virus-free. Enquire on the free phone number about educational discount? Just send them a pic of your uni ID
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 01:12
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For photos, videos, addresses, general googling and portability iPads are great. For more serious use, because somehow the previous post is invisible to me, I'd go for a Mac(Book) every time as it's clear, clean and tends to be virus-free. Yes, but what do these things actually mean?
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 02:27
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Its not about mac haters and windows bummers guys the era of the operating system is dead. No one gives a crap anymore if its windows, mac, linux, html5 etc
its all about the apps and the usibility of the hardware / interface with those apps.
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 08:22
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Macs are lovely to look at and are supposedly really good to use! all my in laws have them and swear by them! But you can buy 3-4 windows laptops for the price of one mac and 4 odd desktops for the cost of one mac I would love a mac but i chose a Fiat Coupe instead, so cant afford one now!
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 11:23
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+1 what Neil said. I believe Macs have the edge when it comes to desktop publishing but I have no idea if that still stands true today. Would love to hear how an ipad or any touch screen device can possibly be a superior platform for creativity.
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24/06/2014 14:16
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Not suggesting touch screens are useless but I'm struggling with the notion that an ipad is as a generalisation "superior". Sounds more like a statement of passion rather than well balanced insight.
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24/06/2014 17:15
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I have Windows PCs and laptops and iPad, iPod and iPhone. I use the Windows machines for serious stuff and all my internet use and the Apple stuff as portable toys. When I bought my desktop PC it would have cost 4 or 5 times as much to have an Apple computer approaching the same capability, and that makes no sense at all to me.
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 19:41
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I must admit that they are beautiful to behold and use. They all feel premium and satisfying. OK, so what does that actually mean?
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24/06/2014 20:19
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I must admit that they are beautiful to behold and use. They all feel premium and satisfying. OK, so what does that actually mean? For me the screen is clearer, less cluttered. The layout is neater, links with iPhoto useful, and I prefer the 'traffic light' system i.e. way the window is minimised or closed. The 'smoothness' of any operation is evident. The main attraction for me too was the white keyboard with black lettering - not sure if this is still available? Just my personal views. You'd need to try one I think if you're that uncertain. The educational deal admittedly made it more attractive.
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24/06/2014 20:32
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I must admit that they are beautiful to behold and use. They all feel premium and satisfying. OK, so what does that actually mean? Apple products look and feel like they're solidly built. The panel gaps are very consistent. Nothing on my iPhone 5 rattles or is loose, despite it being two years old and subject to daily dropping/chucking on my desk. Against some friend's Samsung phones I've had experience with they feel and look like they are made from cheaper materials. My work laptop (an HP) creaks when you open it and a lot of the keys have sideways travel. My best friend's MacBook Air, by contrast, doesn't. As others have done I'd liken it to the difference between premium car manufacturers and the cheaper alternatives (BMW vs Kia, as an example). It appears as though more time, consideration and money has gone into building the BMW than the Kia.
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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24/06/2014 21:15
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Apple products look and feel like they're solidly built. The panel gaps are very consistent. Nothing on my iPhone 5 rattles or is loose, despite it being two years old and subject to daily dropping/chucking on my desk.
I love my iPhone,it does every thing a smartphone needs to do , is easy to use and looks good - but, it has had a tiny rattle from day one, and we have had to send back one iPod as simply not working, another will not hold charge at less than 2 years old and I dislike the fact that you can't expand memory easily via microSD cards. Don't Samsung make most of the parts for Apple products anyway?
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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29/06/2014 19:13
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I think one of the key differences I experience between Mac and Windows is one that tends to divide opinions: Mac stuff tends to just work out of the box - there's very little configuration. If, like me, you've wasted years of your life configuring Windows stuff, then this is a Good Thing. If you like to tinker, adapt, customise then this is a Bad Thing because it tends to be a more closed ecosystem. It's a choice you make I have to agree, I used to spend a lot of my time repairing windows and it's associated hardware. Rebuilds were common, trying to get drivers that worked and were bug free was always a challenge. I then purchased a Mac mini and have since never had to rebuild a single mac. That is my experience and there have been issues with some of the software. My time is important and whilst the first couple of rebuilds are fun, if you lose something critical and then have to spend weekend and your time recovering then they are not so fun. Forget all the rubbish about creative stuff, the real reason people use them is they are reliable. Have a look at DJ'S, the vast majority use macs because they don't blue screen in the middle of a set. And because they are using them more music apps are built so it's a virtuous circle in my opinion.
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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29/06/2014 20:00
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Got to agree with above that Mac hardware generally is well built and reliable.
I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro which has never missed a beat and is coming up to twice the age previous laptops lasted. It is still acceptably quick as well seeing it is now 2 generations of hardware behind.
I also have 2 Mac Towers, the multi-processor multi-core Intel variety which I picked up cheap re-furbed via eBay or similar. Both have never missed a beat, are high performance, and an important thing for me, run almost silently.
Now on all these machines, I run Windows 7, not for any other reason than I was bought up on Windows from 3.1 onwards and have never had time to work out another OS, although Snow Leopeard didn't seem so different, just less configurable and a little smoother.
I believe the hardware is well thought out and well built generally.
Edit, also have an iPad 1 which other than generally decreasing battery life in the last 6 months has worked flawlessly since buying it when they were first released, have had iPhones since the 3, and just used the wife's tescos vouchers to buy a new iPad for her - not quite iPad for free, but nice way to get one! I quite like Apple design and other tablets and phones do have a cheaper feel about them to me.
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Re: Mac v Microsoft
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29/06/2014 21:08
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OK, all fair comments. I just want to say that I've had XP Pro on my desktop PC for ten years now, and it's been excellent.
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