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Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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27/08/2013 10:21
27/08/2013 10:21
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Lucifer
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Hi all I'm looking to buy a modified Plus, but in the event I can't find exactly what I want I'm trying to get an idea how much it would cost me to get a standard one, and then upgrade to stage 3. I've been through the list of performance parts and got the following prices. Could somebody please let me know whether there's anything I've missed that I would need (or indeed listed something I don't essentially need), whether the costs listed are still (vaguely) correct, and also have a stab at estimating the cost of labour (somewhere like Motormech etc) of doing all the work in one hit. Uprated turbo (GT28RS or the like) - £800 approx FMIC - £275 Pro Alloy radiator - £300 Uprated fuel pump - £100 Induction kit - £95 SIP - £120 Hoses - £150 DV - £100 Clutch (Helix organic) - £525 EBC - £250 iridium plugs - £40 Then around £400 for chip plus remap. Not bothered listing exhaust because most Coupes seem to have a decent stainless steel system on them these days. So around £3k, excluding labour costs. Does that sound about right? I know there will be some major holes in this plan somewhere, just waiting for them to be revealed..... How much roughly in labour for somebody to do all that work in one go? Cheers all! EDIT: I realise I'll also need brakes and suspension sorting, but dealing with that separately for now
Last edited by Lucifer; 27/08/2013 10:26.
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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27/08/2013 15:10
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Uprated turbo (GT28RS or the like) - £800 approx FMIC - £275, You can pick up a used Evo FMIC for around £100 Pro Alloy radiator - £300, You don't need this. Uprated fuel pump - £100, You don't need this. A fuel pump wiring mod will do on the standard pump. Induction kit - £95 SIP - £120 Hoses - £150 DV - £100 Clutch (Helix organic) - £525, There are cheaper organic clutches available at around £350. EBC - £250 iridium plugs - £40, Don't need this either. The NGK copper plugs are fine and cost around £15.
You also don't need a 3" downpipe. I had the standard downpipe on my GT28RS setup with a 2.5" cat back and my car was near enough identical in performance to technics' old Coupe with RSR, bigger downpipe and forged.
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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27/08/2013 19:14
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Agree I have GT28RS and was making 320 on std exhaust. Not sure why you need a SIP, I have never had one and now 350bhp. Can somebody please explain benefit? I'd think you should budget to update discs and pads in order to slow down.
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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09/10/2013 22:42
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Kiffi
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Heard that new pistons...like forged is needed if going over 300? or thy can handle 350?
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 00:19
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Standard pistons are fine for 350bhp mate. There are people in the area of 400bhp with them aswell but it's each to there own if they trust the strains there under
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 14:07
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yeeey then i dont need new pistons. talked to a tuning company here in sweden...because i want between 320-350bhp. he said that i need a new ecu box for that..that the stock box will not do it very well when chipped.
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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10/10/2013 14:18
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today i got alu IC 3" downpipe and 3" all way back. openair direcly to the turbo. what else do i need to change from stock to get where i want? im using it as a normal road car. picking the kids from school, and so on. i know i need i bigger turbo. any rec? and a OMP lamell (dont know the word in english). and ofc a good chip. its a rare car here in sweden...so like no tuning company knows what mapping program to use...so thy want me to buy a new ECU box ( 3000£) so thy can use the MAXX ecu. and bigger Fuel injectors 55cc
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 15:40
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Message Flea (fc performance) he can do remote mapping. Did Per's car that way I think, and he's Swedish too.
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 16:13
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thanks i will do that is there anything else i need to upgrade except the turbo and OMP lamell and chip to get the 320-350bhp?
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 16:14
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and what turbo do u guys rec? please not a turbo that cost 1500-2000£ to buy.
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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10/10/2013 16:20
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gt28r , gt28rs or gt28rsr , all depends what you want from the turbo .
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 16:34
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im a newbie...whats the diffrence of them(while driving)?
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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10/10/2013 16:35
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and how good goes our car with 350bhp? if compared to other more expensive cars...i meen..its always nice to kick some bmw brat-ass
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 17:19
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i eat m3's no problem
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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10/10/2013 18:04
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whats the diffrence while driving with gt28r , gt28rs or gt28rsr ?
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
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10/10/2013 20:25
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Additional cooling/breathing, and much better brakes needed - like Nismo, mine at 351bhp is a monster on the road.
Also, refresh the suspension components to get maximum benefit
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 21:22
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Kiffi
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stupid question...spools?
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: Lucifer]
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10/10/2013 23:10
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The time between you putting your foot down and the turbo kicking in
LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7
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Re: Standard to stage 3, how much (£) ?
[Re: gillan]
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15/10/2013 14:27
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Message flea he can do you the full setup including a super hybrid turbo that's spools real quick Ive placed my order for my 16v, im in Norway. Get it to a dyno after and if theres anything that should be altered he will. You can also get adjustment later on for cams or whatever you just "must" have
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