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Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? #1543069
27/06/2015 21:12
27/06/2015 21:12
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Hi

Clutch is finished. Not even gripping when moving off in 1st on nominal boost.

Which clutch is best suited for a coupe in this state of tune. Looking for something that isnt going to rattle the teeth out of my head or need 2000rpm to pull off without stalling. Any suggestions? The current clutch was brutal unfortunately I don't know what make it was to avoid it.

Cheers guys


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Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543098
28/06/2015 09:44
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Its not the power that overwhelms a clutch, its the torque

What torque are you running at the moment?

Without spending a LOT of money, you're not going to get a clutch as lights as standard, with no judder, AND the ability to hold a lot of torque - they're pretty much mutually exclusive


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Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543106
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Hi Nigel

Your familar with my car. Broomy sat at Pauls after a disaster remapping.

364ftlb torque at peak if I remember correctly.

Motor-mech did an ace job putting it back together properly the clutch is the last piece of the jigsaw. Knew it wouldn't last long.

Got a budget of around £800 possibly more.

Cheers

Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543107
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Helix 6 paddle is what you're probably going to need. It's liveable and you need about 1500 - 1700 rpm to pull away with rattling the car to pieces


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543108
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They sell twinplate kits with integrated flywheel just north of 1000£
Suposed to be more drivable then a paddle clutch and can withstand as much torque you would like

Last edited by Brickfoot; 28/06/2015 12:11.
Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543109
28/06/2015 13:23
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Helix twin plate. Plates with organic material, and springs.
You have to try to believe, just like original clutch! Even softer. smile

Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543124
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Jopa any idea on price? Shouldn't be the defining factor but unfortunately with one issue and another around 15k has been sunk into this shed over 2 years. If I remember correctly I thought they were about 600 quid

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Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543189
29/06/2015 12:00
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Originally Posted By: n3v3ragain
Hi Nigel

Your familar with my car. Broomy sat at Pauls


Ah - of course.... I hadn't put two and two together.....

A Helix Organic will cope (just) - I'm on a little bit more torque than you and I've run an Organic for years - however, its heavy and can be juddery - I'd REALLY like to know more about the Helix twin-plate setup

I emailed Helix with an enquiry a couple of weeks ago, but they haven't bothered to reply....


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Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543192
29/06/2015 12:48
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Helix have awful support. That's true. I've emailed them several times, but no answer.. Only way to have good support from them is to speak with dealer or became a dealer. Too bad from company like Helix.. Tell me what I need and take my money! But no...

Neveragain- I've just read your post carefully, you speak about 800 quid. Twin plate with flywheel is about 1300 quid for Impreza. Sorry, missed your price talk smile
I've tried it on Impreza, so good that I want to modify my triple plate sintered Helix to a twin plate organic with springs. You really can't tell that this is a heavy duty clutch..

Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543227
29/06/2015 18:21
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Be interested to know details and prices for the twin plate Helix clutch if you hear anything Nigel, or anybody else

I think this is the way i want to go, a bit overkill at the moment in my case, but there does not seem to be a lot of choice regarding a "light" clutch! just cant be doing with a heavy juddery clutch!

Cheers

Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543348
30/06/2015 16:36
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See if Enrico at www.scara73.com can help you.


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Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543464
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Helix simply didn't bother to respond - I'm now in a dialogue with MardiGras Motorsport (Helix agents) to see if they can shed any light on it


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Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1543482
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I found my Tilton twin plate ok, but wouldn't recommend it if you do lots of stop start city traffic as it becomes less friendly if it gets hot.

It's heavy, but you don't need loads of revs and there isn't much vibration, plus it will never slip, ever. I've never driven anything with a paddle setup to offer a comparison though.

Contact competition supplies at Silverstone Circuit if you want to know more.

Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1547390
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Bought a clutch from Flea, wasn't expensive at all, in fact fitting and skimming flywheel cost almost twice what the clutch did.

Feels like standard, I can move car without any revs whatsoever.

So far very pleased !

Re: Which clutch for 500BHP coupe?? [Re: n3v3ragain] #1547415
18/08/2015 20:40
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Originally Posted By: n3v3ragain
Bought a clutch from Flea, wasn't expensive at all, in fact fitting and skimming flywheel cost almost twice what the clutch did.

Feels like standard, I can move car without any revs whatsoever.

So far very pleased !


Yes the clutch doesn't have to nasty, and still good for 500bhp!


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