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Problem after installing GTEC1 #1304223
08/01/2012 22:10
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Been on here for a few years and been through a few Coupes with no problems, havent posted much as i usually find answers after a search through older posts. The problem I have is I installed a GTEC1 today after replacing my smokey turbo and cracked/badly repaired manifold a couple of weeks ago I followed the guide on here and when i turned the ignition 1 turn the radiator fans came on straight away even though the car was cold the key code light came on and car wouldnt start. I replaced the GTEC with the original chip and it did the same thing, after a lot of messing with the original chip i managed to get the car running again, the original chip doesnt look like a standard one to me even though the car seems to drive like a standard car boost in 1st and 2nd is 0.6Bar and other gears boosts to 1Bar for a second and drops to about 0.8Bar

[IMG]http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq172/richmanipulate/IMG00985-20120108-1537.jpg[/IMG]

Would like to get the GTEC working if possible so does anyone have any ideas what the problem could be or maybe what the chip i have installed is? thanks

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304229
08/01/2012 22:23
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you have installed the GTEC chipe the wrong way around. The writing on the gtech is upside down whencopared to the standard chip.
Look carfully at the chip and you can see one corner is sligtly cut off, that correspons the a place on the socket.

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304231
08/01/2012 22:32
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Thanks for your reply do you mean like this?

[IMG]http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq172/richmanipulate/IMG00986-20120108-1537.jpg[/IMG]

Im pretty sure it was the right way round

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304251
08/01/2012 23:33
08/01/2012 23:33

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click to enlarge click to enlarge My two pics of standard chips fitted. If it helps.

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304252
08/01/2012 23:37
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What chip is that in your first pic?

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304264
09/01/2012 00:26
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isnt the pic you have show a 16vt chip?

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304266
09/01/2012 00:36
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What's the black gunk above the chip?

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304267
09/01/2012 00:40
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The first picture was the one that was already in there and thats running now the second picture is the GTEC installed the black stuff looks like silicone

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304270
09/01/2012 00:45
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But the chip in your first pic has fifteen legs per side? How and where did it fit. ?

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304273
09/01/2012 01:03
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sorry its a bad picture it has a standard size chip attached underneath it which fits the socket in the ECU

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304275
09/01/2012 01:09
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Sorry, no idea. The gtec 1 and 2 chip are the same size etc as the standard chip and are a direct replacement as far as I know.
pm grahaml

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: ] #1304276
09/01/2012 01:14
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Maybe you fitted it the wrong way round firstly, this has sh*gged the board so even if it's correctly fitted it won't run right? I have no electrical knowledge by the way, it's just something I'd do laugh If you're fairly local, You could come look at mine (ECU, not anything else ooh err missus).



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Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1304811
10/01/2012 13:48
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Looks like the original chip was a Superchip, they use those EVC piggy-back encryption boards and Macronix (MX) proms. The blobs of silicon either side of the socket are used to "glue" the piggy-back board in place as it's extra height makes it liable to fall out of the PCB socket.

And yes, most likely the gtec chip has been inserted the wrong way or is blank/corrupted, the problem with the code light and fans starting is exactly what happens when the ECU can't read anything (useful) from the firmware chip.

Inserting it the wrong way can damage the chip so even fitting it the correct way now may not work if it's been fitted wrongly already. If you got the chip from me just send me a PM and I'll send a replacement.

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1305297
11/01/2012 19:37
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Thanks for the info Graham i've sent you a PM, And thanks Pinin for today your new Coup is absolutely mint! oh and the noise i thought was my brakes was in fact the front wheel coming loose got a lot worse after your break test wink sorted now.

Re: Problem after installing GTEC1 [Re: Rich_manipulate] #1306377
14/01/2012 20:01
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shocked Good job you found that one! laugh A pleasure to meet you, Thanks for the coupé compliment smile



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