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Major manifold failure #1192590
28/03/2011 19:06
28/03/2011 19:06
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I'm not one to complain or put anyone down for their parts but after finding this today I've decided it best the forum know about these stainless steel manifolds that have been sold over the past couple of years.

This isn't the first time I've found issues with them, but this takes the biscuit as it could of cost Dave a lot more money with repairs if it had fallen off!

The only thing holding this turbo on was the anchor bolt to the block, once undone it fell clean away from the rest of the manifold.

No disrespect to the seller, I know they have these made outside the UK but with all the issues these have been having I think it maybe time to revise the welding technique used and maybe the design on the manifold.

Pictures tell a thousand words.

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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192596
28/03/2011 19:18
28/03/2011 19:18

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Thought she was a bit noisy laugh

Top work by Joe as usual thumb

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192600
28/03/2011 19:20
28/03/2011 19:20
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No weld penetration at all there, just butted together and hope.


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192603
28/03/2011 19:23
28/03/2011 19:23
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That's not weld, that's putty.


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192608
28/03/2011 19:26
28/03/2011 19:26

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Shit the bed.

If that turbo had fallen...

WOW

Bye bye engine!!!!

Truley shocking.

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: ] #1192627
28/03/2011 19:57
28/03/2011 19:57

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already been said, but amusingly, NO weld prep, no root, just put together & buttered to death = ZERO strength.

NO offense, but that welder is only good for making bacon butties crazy

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192632
28/03/2011 20:02
28/03/2011 20:02
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Sofia,Bulgaria
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This is a terrible sight. Do you know how time is used this manifold? I have such a collector has not yet been used. I'll be an interesting comment from the seller!


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192633
28/03/2011 20:02
28/03/2011 20:02

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The scariest thing is that i am not alone. There are alot of coupes driving around with these manifolds on them.

I expect those who have them will be booking them in soon though!

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192634
28/03/2011 20:04
28/03/2011 20:04

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and i was worried about my welding , thats just shocking its not even the damage to the car what if it caused a major crash

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192639
28/03/2011 20:09
28/03/2011 20:09
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In the coupe.
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How many miles has that Manifold done ?



Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192641
28/03/2011 20:20
28/03/2011 20:20

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It was fitted Summer 2009, i started doing a rather long commute about 6 months later so i would hazard a guess at 15-20k ?

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192643
28/03/2011 20:25
28/03/2011 20:25
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Zele, Belgium
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So... what next... duct tape manifolds?


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192644
28/03/2011 20:27
28/03/2011 20:27

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Ouch truffle.

Least another sign Joe is thorough in his checking.

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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192645
28/03/2011 20:28
28/03/2011 20:28
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In the coupe.
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Thanks. So thats about 25,000 to 33,000 Kilometers for those who have Left hand drive.



Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192648
28/03/2011 20:29
28/03/2011 20:29

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I dont know i'm right handed tongue

I only drive with my left hand when i'm holding a beer in my right laugh

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: ] #1192651
28/03/2011 20:31
28/03/2011 20:31

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Originally Posted By: Truffle


I only drive with my left hand when i'm holding a beer in my right laugh


Brilliant line!

now wheres stan for your cavity search??

laugh

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192652
28/03/2011 20:31
28/03/2011 20:31
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In the coupe.
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Yes i have heard you only drive in 1st gear Dave, tongue



Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192676
28/03/2011 21:07
28/03/2011 21:07

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Thank god I sold mine before I even put it on.

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: magooagain] #1192682
28/03/2011 21:10
28/03/2011 21:10

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censoredIf that was mine I would be furious... I was thinking about going stainless but after looking at that I'm sticking with the good old cast one's..

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192685
28/03/2011 21:15
28/03/2011 21:15
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Southsea
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Thanks for posting that up Joe.

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192691
28/03/2011 21:29
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This needed to be brought to peoples attention, my only concern is how many more are like this throughout the UK and Europe.

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192693
28/03/2011 21:32
28/03/2011 21:32

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Jesus christ monkey balls, my mum could weld better than that!!

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192696
28/03/2011 21:36
28/03/2011 21:36
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Essex
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I refused to fit these after the first one i did. They just didnt look up to spec, very poor quality welds and many of them are not flat.


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192697
28/03/2011 21:36
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I was watching one of those on Ebay tonight, thought, shall I, shant I confused Just went for £264, thats alot of money for a poor quality product shocked Not that I'd spend that sort of money on one anyway wink
Glad I didn't, cheers Joe thumb

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192698
28/03/2011 21:38
28/03/2011 21:38
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Windsor/ Reading
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evo stick would of held better laugh


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192710
28/03/2011 21:58
28/03/2011 21:58

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Such a cold weld rolleyes

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192730
28/03/2011 22:21
28/03/2011 22:21
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not a lot of penetration on the pipe there. looks like pish poor welding unfortunately or as suggested cracking because it wasnt tempered.

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: Countrycruising] #1192738
28/03/2011 22:28
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I see this shocking welding all the time.
Not sure what welders they use but most are done in situ.
Never seen one detatch like that before,although that wouldve helped me out last week when i had to fit a turbo and noticed some moron had welded the manifold over the front manifold bolts.
That was a bad day.

Re: Major manifold failure [Re: knight7660] #1192833
28/03/2011 23:32
28/03/2011 23:32
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Originally Posted By: knight7660
evo stick would of held better laugh



Twist!


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Re: Major manifold failure [Re: ] #1192841
28/03/2011 23:36
28/03/2011 23:36

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Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
noticed some moron had welded the manifold over the front manifold bolts.
That was a bad day.



No shi* that would of been the end of my day, i would of packed my tools and gone home!!!

JBT you are a sucker for punishment!! an i don't mean that whips and chains thing you keep sending me photos of...

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