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Lucky Escape! #1001415
15/03/2010 19:35
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Another one broken!

- but soon to be fixed i hope!

Driving through Kings Cross 2 weeks ago my front passenger side wheel decided to leap of my car whilst going round a corner and leaving me coming to screeching halt on the brake disc causing a pretty decent tailback.

Fortunately the police came by and helped as did the AA guy (55 minutes wait), when he arrived, top guy, had seen a few coupes in the past, but had only good things to say smile

Here's some pics and google link to where it happened and why it was such a nightmare place to have come a croper.

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Location of wheel coming off

(ive been told the reason the wheel came off was due to the bolts not being Fiat replacements, and because they're not genuine they're not high tensile which makes them softer unfortunately. So beware of these dodgy replacements, as it was something i was not aware of, but certainly will in the future)

So two weeks passed and today the cars been collected and gone to Joe at Country Cruising.

Im now waiting to hear the news on what need doing in full, nervous times, so fingers crossed there are no hidden gremlins from the accident!

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001418
15/03/2010 19:42
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Good luck mate, its going to the right place to be sorted...keep us posted smile

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001419
15/03/2010 19:42
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Good to hear you are ok.

Even with a wheel missing a Coupe looks stunning. love

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: JKD] #1001423
15/03/2010 19:45
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JKD, im sure the designers at Fiat factored in styling when its broken down as it does spend a few days a year in need of AA help at the roadside...

After all it is Italian!

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001438
15/03/2010 20:06
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still looks like its doing a ton, even with a wheel missing....great colour for the coupe as well


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Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: djmobi] #1001625
16/03/2010 10:03
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Wow, that's a very unlucky place for the coupe to pack in - I bet you were popular with the other drivers! wink

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001634
16/03/2010 10:16
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Saw first hand the damage last night as it was coming of the transporter. You were VERY lucky with it being low speed. The possibility for that to have gone south extremely quickly was immense.
Lovely car though, defiantly worth saving! In fact, I was surprised just how little damage there was

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: samsite999] #1001746
16/03/2010 14:05
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Hi Samsite,

Yes i know what you mean about the luck of not being any worse! 5 minutes later i would have been on the Euston road going a lot faster in much busier traffic, and 10 minutes later on the Westway at 50 mph!, so lucky, really!

Yep, i lost my old coupe this time last year, so this one im not letting go, couldnt bear to see another Coupe written off.

Cant wait to see Joe;s hard work and have her back restored, with new le skirts too smile

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001793
16/03/2010 15:29
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Originally Posted By: WillB76
on the Westway at 50 mph!


and the rest.

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001863
16/03/2010 17:08
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Thats a very valid point mate about the wheel bolts..... I bet a lot of us will be cheacking ours now and perhaps buy a complete set (from Fiat) just to be sure.. Good job it did not happen at high speed.. Hope the repair bill is cheap mate..

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001899
16/03/2010 17:49
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blimey.. really sorry to see such a thing frown
did it just come off or was there any noises prior. The only time ive ever seen this is through a wheel not being bolted tight enough, as in the bolts just nipped up. I wonder if anyone else has had this.

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Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: bridges] #1001916
16/03/2010 18:37
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I had wheel bolt come loose on me several times.

You must torque them to 98 with a torque wrench - the pathetic bar in the kit in the boot will not do the job.

You will hear a rumbling noise from the wheel (like a bad bearing) when they work loose....

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001921
16/03/2010 18:45
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Happened to me about 25 yrs ago in my fiat 126. It's quite surreal watching your rear wheel over take you bouncing down the road, and boy did it bounce.

Nearly took out several people standing at a bus stop and ended up 100's of yards away in a church car park. Truely frightening experience. Not so much losing the back wheel, but watching people dive out of the way, pull people out of te way and others totally oblivious and just lucky they weren't hit.

Don't know why I decided to take the shore road home that day and not the motorway. Damn lucky no one was killed, and god knows what chaos it could have created if I had taken my usual motorway route home.

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1001922
16/03/2010 18:48
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Originally Posted By: suba
You must torque them to 98 with a torque wrench


And retorque them after 50-100 miles or so.

I nearly lost a wheel at Mallory Park recently. It was torqued up correctly first thing in the morning, but in the session just before lunch I noticed a loud rumbling. All the bolts on one wheel had worked themselves loose shocked

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1002364
17/03/2010 14:39
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The wheel just came off as i went round the corner, no noises prior to it, it was only when i bumped down to the brake disc and saw my wheel i the wing mirror that i new there was trouble!

Im getting a full set of new fiat nuts from Joe, and im going to be checking my car now once a week for usre to make sure that doenst happen again.

Just simply not worth risking again for the cost of a few bolts!

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1004209
20/03/2010 02:27
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Good news, no hidden gremlins and the car should be back shiny and new in 2 weeks! Will post some pics when i get the car back on here.

All i can say is a big thank you to Joe at Country Cruising for his expert advice and swift work, nice one!

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1004225
20/03/2010 07:01
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Yes very lucky escape with this one Will, far less damage to repair in comparison to your last Moon Plus frown

We'll have this back to you in no time thumb

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: Countrycruising] #1004231
20/03/2010 07:48
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Would someone be kind enough to clarify - did four bolts come undone, did four bolts break, or some combination of the two?

Ta!


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Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: barnacle] #1004239
20/03/2010 08:32
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The threads on the bolts were pulled clean off the stud, further damage was then done to the flange as the wheel was loose but the issue was with the bolts not the hub.

Will put the old studs in the car and I could see the issue straight away, a grind test showed orange sparks so I'd say they were near on mild steel compound and not the high carbon as required.

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: Countrycruising] #1004305
20/03/2010 11:41
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Right - so effectively, the bolts just pulled out of the hub when the threads failed. Not good.


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Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: barnacle] #1004357
20/03/2010 13:29
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thats bad mate after reading this i had to find out what tensile my bolts are and there 10.9. Nice looking coupe hope your back on the road soon

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1004439
20/03/2010 15:35
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As Joe said he'll have it back to me soon enough, and over the summer will add skirts and lips, and if very lucky i'll get the red calipers so it will look like my old Moon Plus.

Hopefully be back on the road within a couple weeks.

*Please all check your wheel bolts, as a new set is only £40! and for near enough £1500.oo worth of damage it just doesn't make sense to not have the right ones on your Coop, we all spend a lot of cash making our cars look and ride great, so for a small amount, you hopefully wont suffer as i have, even with a lucky escape.

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1004443
20/03/2010 15:39
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Wise words there Will wink

On the subject of yours looking like your old Plus, I couldn't temp you to buy some Recaro seats could I love chinny laugh

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: Countrycruising] #1004445
20/03/2010 15:44
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LOL. you could tempt me with much, but its a lack of money that only stops me!

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1004452
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Originally Posted By: WillB76
LOL. you could tempt me with much, but its a lack of money that only stops me!


laugh

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: Countrycruising] #1004615
20/03/2010 20:55
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Originally Posted By: Countrycruising
I couldn't temp you to buy some Recaro seats could I love chinny laugh


If they were the light tan Recaros I would be really interested, indeed they would probably already be in my car evil


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Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: Barmybob] #1004626
20/03/2010 21:02
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What about having them recovered in light tan leather Bob chinny

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: Countrycruising] #1007787
25/03/2010 23:52
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So Joe has been working his magic on the car, and ive also added some LE skirts, as i couldn't not as it was in the shop, just wish i could afford the red calipers and LE lips, but thats for next time!

Pictures when i collect it next week from Joes, might make a road trip movie!

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1007790
25/03/2010 23:59
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It has become quite common to see coupes with poor fitting aftermarket wheels that have cut down cheap bolts that barely go 3-4 threads into the hub. Shoddy wheel and tyre places are largely responsible.

A lot of people seem to underestimate the importance of high quality wheel bolts or nuts.

Re: Lucky Escape! [Re: ] #1007804
26/03/2010 00:24
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Mild steel wheel bolts.

F censored SHOCKING.

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