Dyno Demon Rolling Road Day - Saturday 8th March

OK, following Julien's kind offer to run with the numbers we have, the day will be running on Saturday 8th March. Start time will be 9.00am.

The following people have confirmed places for this event;

1) MABR
2) bilbo
3) Matt M
4) Matt W
5) Clay99
6) Taffy
7) Andy M
8) Cheesy?

Each car will have a half hour time slot so please pick a slot when you confirm on this Thread. I have no problem going first but if anyone else wants this slot, I have no problem swapping times.

Saturday 8th March 2008

9.00am MABR
9.30am
10.00am
10.30am
11.00am
11.30am
12noon
12.30pm
1.00pm
1.30pm

If anyone else wishes to join in, please do so.

Link to Dyno Demon;

http://www.dynodemon.co.uk/home.php?/Home

Put me down for running second.

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am
11.00am
11.30am
12noon
12.30pm
1.00pm
1.30pm

Ill go after Taffy

Saturday 8th March

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am
11.30am
12noon
12.30pm
1.00pm
1.30pm

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am
12noon
12.30pm
1.00pm
1.30pm

I'll book lunch off when i go into work tonight fella
i'll send ya a txt to confirm

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am MattW
12noon
12.30pm
1.00pm
1.30pm

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am MattW
12noon clay99
12.30pm
1.00pm
1.30pm

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am MattW
12noon clay99
12.30pm MattM
1.00pm
1.30pm

Also my mate might come in his clio but thats only a maybe

Getting the Coupe back this week hopefully, and am awaiting a PRV from Martyn at demon tuning - so that should be on soon.

How much will this session cost (roughly) guys? It makes sense to have the fuelling done properly after all this work (new valve & re-seating + head gasket). Do you get a bhp figure as well? The only other snag is that the available slots clashes with Ireland v Wales in the Six Nations!

i think MABR said its £40 and that includes fuelling, boost and power checking. So its good value! im sure someone will confirm this soon

OK - I'm in. Does anyone want to swap time slots for the morning (or can I watch the rugby locally!? )?

Looks tempting but how do they provide air to the intercooler. Thats what I love about Powerstation - the biggest fan/turbine ive ever seen that would knock you off your feet!

James

they have a huge fan that they wheel in front of the car. The price is 40 quid from what i remember.

I'm up for this if there's room.

Got a standard LE but it'd still be nice to see how everything's running after 89 thou. Only 10 miles away too.

I'll take any slot, I'm easy, just stick me on the list where you want MABR and I'll be there.

Martyn

Is that all slots full now? Am I in on the 1:00 p.m. slot & Tynhead after me?

Sorry for the delay in responding folks - had a few "off days" recently.

Right the updated list is as follows;

Saturday 8th March

£40.00 per car

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am MattW
12noon clay99
12.30pm MattM
1.00pm mona
1.30pm Tynhead
2.00pm
2.30pm

I've spoken to Dyno Demon today and have the following information;

Extra slots are still available (I've extended the time slots above) so if anyone else is interested?

@ Jap - The cooling fan used is almost 60 inch diameter so there shouldn't be any problems there!

@ mona - I'll swap timeslots with you but you'd probably need a really early start from yours to get there for 9.00am? Up to you as I'll be there all day anyway.

i have to say also

no one laugh at my multi coloured car
craig knows hes seen it

Cheers for the offer MABR - I'll stick with the 1:00 p.m. slot, as I value sleep over rugby any day! (I can always record it, or watch the highlights!)

^^^ No worries mona.




Don't worry Joseph - it'll be fine.

The fan / turbine is 5 foot diameter.

C'mon James, get your name down.

LOL
hose reduces are sorted m8, gtechII HF fitted just need to dial in the greddy and see if i can squeeze a bit mor out of the old girl then compare to power station run in nov

i might come down and watch! see how i feel closer to the date!

I'd love to get along to this but its almost 2hrs each way from me in Lichfield - according to the AA route planner

James

And the problem is???

I might have to pull out

New turbo has suddenly started making whistling noises and smoking, if it's about to die then I wont be able to get it ready in time. Maybe I should go last and put someone else in my 11:30 slot for now, see how it's going nearer the time?

Matt, you're having no luck mate - hope you manage to get things sorted.

I'll adjust the list and put you last and leave the 11.30 slot open if anyone wants to take it - mona?

Saturday 8th March

£40.00 per car

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am
12noon clay99
12.30pm MattM
1.00pm mona
1.30pm Tynhead
2.00pm
2.30pm MattW

Today it was a lot warmer, the whistle had greatly subsided and not a trace of blue smoke. Maybe I will be there after all

@ Mattw - if you are not going, could I have your slot (or we swap slots now) please? That would be excellent timing for me if poss!

Just got mine back from the garage today - newly skimmed head & re-set valves. They struggled to get the PRV working properly, so will leave it to the guys in Dyno Demon - would they be able to set it up to work properly & adjust the boost for me in that session?! For the moment, I am treating her like a virgin i.e. only using a smidge of boost!!

You can have the 11:30 slot mona and I'll go last, no problem with that.

Is anyone with a GT28R/RS/RSR going to be there? I'm planning to get one at some point and would like to see one in action! How it delivers power, what it sounds like, etc...

I could come if ya wanted...

Ross

Yeah go on!

Cheers MW - you are indeed a gentleman & a scholar. May you gain much more horses from your session!

Matt you're just paranoid. The smoking is due to the cold weather. All the other cars are doing it too, just look around

Anyway I hope you all polish your cars beforehand as i might come along just to take pictures

No it was blue smoke, and I've seen pleeeeenty of turbo smoke before so I can tell the difference. It was whistling too, when it was freezing cold. Still is a bit, when it spools. Not perfect but maybe it will hold together for a while longer yet

Whistling isnt totally unusual dude. Mines does it on my 28r.

Ross

maybe it'll be alright then and it just let some oil past the seals when it was literally -9C outside

Saturday 8th March

£40.00 per car

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am mona
12noon clay99
12.30pm MattM
1.00pm
1.30pm Tynhead
2.00pm
2.30pm MattW

MattW, if ross doesn't end up making it, then you are welcome to drive my car when I get it back!

Also Taffy has a GT28RS!

That's a very kind offer Mark. However, the downside is that Matt's bank balance may take a hammering after he's drove yours!

It would make a change from it being my bank balance

What kind of power are you hoping for Mark?

really depends what I do with the turbo! I've had months to think about it but still can't make my mind up 100%!

If I stick with the RS, then I'm pretty much at its limit already! I may be able to get to 380bhp at a push! but will have more lower down with the headwork!

If I swap to something like a GT2871R with larger injectors then I should easily be looking at over 400bhp! its just the issue with mapping the injectors that I'm concerned about!

Thanks Mark, very kind offer, maybe it would be better for me to ride as a passenger rather than drive, so you/ross/taffy can push it to a limit you are comfortable with, I wouldnt want to feel like I was 'ragging' someone elses car...

Having recently been a passenger in Ross's beast, I can confirm that it's a very, very nice (if slightly scary) experience.

Ill bring my Code reader with me just to make sure no one has any issues before going on the RR

Matt,Ill take you for a spin in my car if you want

Sounds good taffy... after you come off the rollers? If so I'll be there by around 10.

Thanks

Before or after,Ill be there most of the day

Excellent idea.

I was on the rollers in January and the injector light came on briefly a few times, but has never come on on the road. Maybe the error code that caused it will still be there...

nice one fella

shame I'm working i would've come to this, but i've got a crack in my manifold too plus other niggly things to sort first, next time!!!!!
would've been nice to go back to neston too as my nan is from there and i used to go there on holiday to my uncles!!!

Very interested in this. Can I bag the 1pm spot?

James

Your wish...


Saturday 8th March

£40.00 per car

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am Cheesy
11.30am mona
12noon clay99
12.30pm MattM
1.00pm Jap
1.30pm Tynhead
2.00pm MattW
2.30pm

Matt, I've also moved you to the 2pm slot.

looking forward to getting mine back on the rollers and seeing

james what time ya thinking of going up?

I wanna attend this, just for the laugh of it

I'll try and confirm after crail

Ross

fine by me. my turbo bearing is definitely starting to fall apart, but as long as it still spins i'll be there. probably down on power again

^^^ Matt, is it really worth it? I doubt they'll run it if it's that bad and you may end up with an undriveable car to get you home.

@ Ross - you're mad mate!

It's not that bad yet, but it will get worse over the next month or two. Just a bit of blue smoke for a couple of minutes on cold start up at the moment, once warmed up it's fine.

that's blue smoke, not condensation

What oil u using matt?

U checked the oil feed to the turbo is ok etc?

Ross

Yes all the oil feeds are OK, I'm using Silkolene Pro-S 10W50.

Be good to see you there Cheesy.

I should be going up nice and early. Its almost 2 hours each way for me so I'll be setting off at about 9. Should be there at 11am all being well.



James

Can these guys monitor boost levels as well?

James

Yes.

OK boys and girls, this is happening this coming Saturday.

Is everyone OK for directions / location etc or do I need to sort maps for people?

Oh and if anyone else wants to join in, you're more than welcome - just add your name to the list.

Yep im deffo gonna be there, just spent this weekend putting my new manifold on, new plugs and resetting boost! count me in

Guys, car is broke, dont think I'll be able to make it.

Jap, I'll contact you about the PRV once it's fixed, need every spare penny now

Matt

Sorry to hear that Matt - hope you get it fixed soon. Is it the turbo thats bust or something else?

James

That... and other things

Bleedin 'ell Matt, you're having no luck with turbos mate.

sorry to hear matt

craig think i'll be up that way night before

Could still make it on this turbo, it's still on the early signs of knackered seals, fine once warmed up. I just have a juddery problem and a suspension knocking problem to sort out as well. Chance I could still make it, do you need to know for definite before saturday?

I'll definetly be there, but I'm starting to regret booking my run at 9:30

i'll be driving up saturday morning now. Check ya fluids before ya go people. The car feels better now with greddy fitted. See how it shows on sat

Looking forward to this.

Do a "dyno demon" search on youtube. Loads of clips.

James

Now that I've had my Novitec Chip fitted, I'm looking forward to this too.

Just hope I don't end up needing a Walbro after it.

I might make an appearance but I definitely wont be able to run now. clutch slip

Matt if you can, come along coz at least you'll get a ride in Taffy's beast. Fully understand if you can't tho mate.

Im watching this, tempted to come down.

Ross

pick me up on the way past

Ross - you know you'd be most welcome but I still think you're mad!

U serious?

Ross

yeah should be up for it, as long as i don't get a better offer! you're still crazy though!

Well it just depends if i change my wheels back to my 18's in time or not.

Ross

Definitely 100% cant make it at all now. Car is stuck in works car park and wont start, cant get AA on it until tomorrow as I dont have time to sit out there this afternoon and the gates are locked soon after I finish.

sorry craig. Gotta pull out due to work now. A partys booked so boss is struggling

Saturday 8th March

£40.00 per car

9.00am MABR
9.30am AndyM
10.00am Taffy
10.30am Bilbo
11.00am
11.30am mona
12noon clay99
12.30pm MattM
1.00pm Jap
1.30pm Tynhead
2.00pm
2.30pm

I'll give them a call now and make sure we're still OK for numbers.

Everyone else still up for this then?
Looks like I'm last in line, but as I'm only up the road I'll come down earlier and see how everyone's runs go.
I'll bring a camera too.

Even got the car washed tonight, don't want to show you all up

'Til tomorrow...

Martyn

yeah i reckon ill be there about 1130. ( getting drunk tonight)

good luck tomorrow

How many runs do they do per person?

Ill be there

3.

I wont be there first thing as i snapped an exhaust clamp

Ill pick on up at 9am so ill be there at 9:30/9:45

Get them to post up videos on youtube like they have with loads of other runs.

I had a slight problem with mine while it was on the rollers

Heres my graph,Feel the power

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc20/Taffy20v/File0001.jpg

Over fueling + a missfire,It was running fine last week

Finally got back after roadworks at Widnes.

I'll post up some piccies later but for the meantime, here's the results;


NAME: MABR

MODS: BlueFlame Catback / K & N Induction Kit / Greddy Profec B EBC / Novitec Chip

BHP: 273
TORQUE: 280 ft/lb


NAME: AndyM

MODS: Standard

BHP: 232
TORQUE: 238 ft/lb


NAME: Taffy20vt

MODS: Apexi AVCR / GT28RS / FMIC / 3 inch turbo back exhaust / SIP & Apexi / Walbro Fuel Pump & Wiring Mod / Gtech 2 Chip

BHP & TORQUE: Run aborted due to overfuelling and misfire


NAME: Bilbo

MODS: K & N Panel Filter in Drilled Airbox / Peco Catback

BHP: 215
TORQUE: 210 ft/lb


NAME: Tynhead

MODS: Standard

BHP: 220
TORQUE: 242 ft/lb


NAME: Mona

MODS: BlueFlame Catback / PRV / Gtech 1 Chip / K & N Induction Kit / Atmospheric DV

BHP: 272
TORQUE: 280
(figures at 1.8 Bar )


NAME: Jap

MODS: GT28R / FMIC / Gtech 2 HF Chip / 3 Inch Downpipe / PRV / K & N Panel Filter

BHP: 269.5
TORQUE: 270


NAME: Clay99

MODS: GT28R / FMIC / SIP / Greddy Profec B EBC / Gtech 2 Chip / SuperSprint Turboback

BHP & TORQUE: Run aborted due to defective EBC


NAME: MattM

MODS: SuperChips Chip / SuperSprint & Decat / K & N Induction Kit / Baileys DV / PRV

BHP: 259
TORQUE: 265 ft/lb


Thanks to everyone who braved the weather, nice to meet you all and special thanks to Julian and the lads at Dyno Demon for a very pleasant and smooth event.

Its quite amazing how some of the stock coops with just a chip and afew little bits can make such good power (mona), and the cars with bigger turbos, fmic, gtec 2 chips seems to struggle.
I noticed the same on my rr i had all the mods and only made 250 bhp and 220 torque but the other totally stock coop got 240 bhp and 245 torque.

You got some nice torque there MABR, must be nice to drive.

Ash

As i said to MABR on the phone, i think the results may be "out" slightly. Some of the figures dont make sense, esp MABR's as hes getting 280lb/ft at 1.2 bar midrange?

Ross

You must have been pleased with that Craig!

If the results were out how come many of the other standard ones were getting the right figures? Or do you think everyone was getting a bit too high torque figures?

I think so.

Not wanting to piss on anyones parade, but generally when the torque is higher than the bhp, it means they havent held the boost long enough or they run alot more midrange than redline.

I made 278lb/ft with my 28r running 1.38 bar midrange on a prv. But only made 264bhp at 5800rpm @ 0.9 bar.

Ross

Thanks for organising the RR today MABR. It was good to see everyone and to hear the coops getting put through their paces. It's a shame the fan was drowning out the engine noise.
I'm well pleased with the figures that I got. I never expected to get more than standard power. I'm just glad that it's running healthily though.
I'll post up some of the pics later.

Thanks again.

AndyM

I only just made it to this event, car was very poorly on the way, put it on rollers purely for diagnostic reasons. Ran about 120bhp and running very very lean the guys said. one of them then spotted i had a small split in the hose on the inlet manifold-where ive got my boost gauge connected to-which will lead to the AFR? they chopped an inch off, stuck it back on and all problems were solved! then ran 260bhp, very happy with that. Thanks to MABR for organising, and the chaps at dyno demon were very good. Been having a few probs with motor in last few weeks-seems all it was in the end was a poxy split hose!

Really enjoyed this meet and was pleased to see I've lost only 4.6bhp from new, on a 9-year-old, 89k miler

I've got a few photos and vids that I'll try to upload tomorrow.

Thanks to Craig for organising this and the lads at Dyno Demon for trying to explain the graph to a numbnut like me

Martyn

one word GUTTED lol car was mint b4 the ebc!! anyway it was good thanks Craig!

Clay

fingers crossed there will be another session arranged and i can make it!!
some good figures there guys

NAME: Jap

MODS: GT28R / FMIC / Gtech 2 HF Chip / 3 Inch Downpipe / PRV / K & N Panel Filter

BHP: 269.5
TORQUE: 270

I went along to Dyno Demon for a fuelling check primarily. I just swapped all the tuning goodies from my 300bhp sprinty blue onto the LE and this was the first time it was tested. To be honest I was expecting more peak power but I was only running 1.2 bar 'cause I'm paranoid I'm going to blow it up using more.

They said my fuelling was "spot-on" and they were very impressed with the torque curve as well.

My boost peaked at 1.18 bar and quite quickly tailed off to about 0.8 by about 6000rpm, by which time the car was well passed peak power.

One thing I noticed from the graphs was that peak power was pre-6000prm. Is it the dyno or is it us?

Hmmmm.

James

If the boost didnt drop off as much then the power would have risen more, and peak power would be later.

I think you'd see a fair bit more power with a good EBC... ??

You'll be glad to know that I got back in one piece guys - with the Coupe being driven gingerly on the advice of Steve!! (And I stopped at the Plough in Q'ferry to watch Wales win the triple crown! )

Really enjoyed the meet & chatting to you guys - got some good pointers from today & the DD boys were excellent - Steve has shown me the error of my ways i.e. 1.8 bar can be terminal for the internals long term!! Looks like I will be selling the 2nd car to fund a decent EBC (Greddy, probably) as it will indeed be cheaper than (another) engine rebuild! Anyone want an Audi Avant TDi - going cheap!?

Thanks to Craig for the organisation, the DD guys for the advice about the next steps post-RR, and to Jap for help with the PRV. I'll try & post up some piccies (shame about the weather - that's the 2nd one I've been to now with grey skies & rain!) when I get a chance.

I was very surprised, but delighted that I got such high figures (not so after the boost & fuelling was pointed out by Steve) - and I've now got a nice graph to frame! Money well spent (bargain, actually) & I hope to go to the next one that is organised there post-greddy (or de-tune!).

@ MABR - cheers fella - did you get 273 bhp? I thought it was 271??

@ Tynhead - I think you were in front of me near the North Wales border (was a red Coupe) - one of your tail lights is out (offside)!

@clay99 - your Coupe was going fine when it hammered past at the traffic lights near the Toyota dealership off the A550!

Graphs guys graphs???

270 hp with a GT28R, isn´t that a bit low?

Yes it is - I'll post up my graphs in a minute.

James

Here are a couple of mine.

This first one is for Power and torque
http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/AndyM_09/?action=view¤t=IMG.jpg

This one is fueling and boost.
http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/AndyM_09/?action=view¤t=IMG_0002.jpg

Yeah I forgot to mention before how good the guys were at DD. Brilliant job and great that they talked through the graphs with you. I think my mate, (Stu, who was there today) may suggest that the sxoc crowd head that way. I tried to get him to bring his 200 along, but I think he was worried that he'd get shown up.

My video

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wImB3R0VMTI

Power and torque graph (notice peak bhp at about 5600rpm!?)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/jamesperks/SSL22271.jpg

Wheel power, Air-fuel ratio and boost graph (they were very happy as the fuel richened to about 10:1 as soon as the boost kicked in but thought it got a little too rich towards the top end. Boost of just 0.9bar at max power!?)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/jamesperks/SSL22270.jpg

Any ideas/comments?

James

Well your fueling is too rich. It's very safe, but running 10.5 AFR will be loosing you a little bit of power, try a normal G-Tec II and you should see somewhere around 11 - 11.5.

As for the power, if you had held the boost to around 1.1bar throughout the range then you would have seen another 20-30bhp and been back to around 300bhp.

Thanks Flea - that just the sort of feedback I need.

I'm going to pop the Gtec II back in, get my straight induction pipe on and get an electronic boost controller I think.

What else can I do to help boost apart from possibly getting an EBC?

James

Raise the boost Jap

Hi mona, yeah mine was 273. I decided not to say anything as you looked chuffed to get highest figure of the day, well until you found out what 1.8 Bar will do to your engine anyway. Glad you got home OK mate.

One thing I think yesterday did show was the clear difference between a PRV and an EBC. For the money PRV's are a bargain but if you want reliable control, you pay your money... I actually sold my original Greddy then got offered another at silly money and I'm sooo glad I did.

Once I've found a scanner, I'll get my graphs up so the experienced among us can pass judgement. Can't get a detailed photo of them with my camera.

Originally, I'd set out to achieve @ 300bhp and my current setup was just a step towards that. However, If I get similar figures at another RR, I'll probably just concentrate on brakes / suspension as I cant justify spending @ £1K for what would probably be an extra 30bhp.

300 hp with the standard turbo MABR?

No, that's where the £1K spend would be; GTi-R turbo / FMIC / fitting.

I ran 1.2 bar on the rollers due to being parinoid about it going pop :). I now run 1.3bar and its been fine and seems to prefer it to 1.2.

With a ebc jap you will hold better boost higher up. When i had a prv my boost tailed off abit but not as much as yours. After fitting the blitz i run 1.15/1.2 bar redline it makes a huge difference and the best thing i brought.

Ash

Well that seals it then - an EBC it is.

What Blitz model did you buy Ash?

James

The 3 main EBC's on here in terms of popularity seem to be;

Greddy Profec B
Blitz SBC iD-III
Apexi AVCR

For some strange reason, I'm a fan of the Greddy.

I brought a blitz dual sbc. Its the older model but got it at a good price and they still use the same solinoid for the new ones.
I liked this one as its nice and small like the greddy but it has 4 different boost settings and i think is alot easier to setup then the greddy. But they all do about the same thing so i guess it depends on the price you can get one for

Ash

I bet you are MABR!

Thanks for organising the day for us all MABR - I was very impressed with the whole setup. And four staff just for us with a full de-briefing afterwards plus a whole host of advice. Top people. I'll be going back soon

James

thats the same one i have ash! having 4 settings is good

1 - Normal Mode - 0.9bar
2 - I need to get somewhere fast - 1.1bar
3 - Don't mess with a Fiat Coupe - 1.3bar
4 - I want to die - 1.5bar

maybe organise another RR day in the summer?

I was actually going to suggest I do that Mark, if only to see your beast back to it's best.

I would definately be up for it, had a great day last time even though my results were a bit disappointing!

I'm hoping to have it back ran in and mapped by May time!

Great result for you Craig!

i will be up for the next one definately!!!

I'll start a new thread next week for a Summer RR Day. Let's hope we can get more people interested / available this time.

The Greddy also has a Remote Boost Switch for the steering wheel, so you don´t need to take the hand off the wheel
http://www.alamomotorsports.com/greddy/grprofecremote.htm

Don´t just see it as £1K for another 30 HP. You also get a turbo that is more efficient and better than the original turbo. And with some extra headwork you´ll see 330 HP.

Looks like it was a cracking get together and some tasty figures to go with it.
I used to run a prv and switched to the greddy made a massive difference.





james i'll send ya a pm

@mona, must have been one of the other LEs, my tail-lights are fine, I checked them earlier. Glad you got back ok.

One or two pics from the day...

pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
pic
my graph

...ok that's more than one or two.

I've got a bunch of .avi vids of some runs too. Anyone with editing knowledge/software want to try and splice them together to stick on youtube?
Need suggestions as to where I can upload them to though as they won't attach to my email - too big

Martyn

Oi!!! You wish!!!

Turns out the sxoc have already been there. I thought the place looked familiar. I'd seen pics on our club.

Nice to meet you all - maybe next time an FCCUK and SXOC day could be arranged with some small but friendly competition? There has just been an SXOC Vs Skyline Owners rolling road.

SXOC vs FCCUK would be

Thanks Tynhead - all pics now saved and one as my desktop

James

3 red LE's in one place, people are going to start saying they are common

Could make a full day of it with a BBQ too

how many do you think you would get along?

That comment was made numerous times yesterday - only a couple of the rarer Sprint Blues were in attendance.

Not sure really the best person to organise at the SXOC would be SteA he organised the last one for us at Dyno Demon. I think he is our NW rep.

The SXOC went in November last year and looking on this thread it would seem about 20 went. (I didn't go though)

http://sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=321559

who's car is gonna get torched then!!!!!!!!
some good results from those there neesans

looks like we would have some stiff competition

Bleedin 'ell - I didn't know 200's were running that kind of power.

Your's will need to be on form Mark.

I'd be up for it!

50% chance I'd pull out though

No pressure then I'm sure you could convince Ross to bring his too, just because he is crazy!

How fast were they getting through the cars? 20+ cars from SXOC is pretty good going!

Less than 20 mins per car for us.

Yeah i'd be up for one. But just depends when it is. I'll be getting one next month

Ross

Someone give me a shout in a month or two and we will start getting an SXOC v FCCUK shootout organised at dynodemon

The bad news, or maybe not depending on you guys, is that we will likely have lots of cars running around 350 - 400 on those rollers Losers buy dinner?

We wont have many cars much over 400 though, I know you have some big power cars kicking around so we could get a shock! I'm enjoying my car too much to put the huge turbo on thats sat in my bedroom

Well I was going to organise a Summer RR in about 3 months so this could be really interesting.

In about 3 months OK for you Ross?

Yeah probably should be. 3 months would be June?

Ross

Yeah, I'm thinking June / July time.

that would be perfect for me

Need to see nearer the time.

Ross

TOTB 7 is on 27th July so may be good to do it a few weeks before that?

Dependant on who qualify's, it may not be suitable.

Ross

june/july would be good for me as i'll have it running properly by then too, no enormous power figures though!!

just do both Ross

Fingers crossed

Ross

Right, do people want me to post up for a combined FCCUK / SXOC RR Day with a list of possible dates in June / July?

sounds good to me

and me

U need to get the buy in from the big power members aswell.

The sxoc boys take it serious

Ross

In anticipation of a combined RR who can I speak to on here about changing my username to what I post as on the SXOC?

It's going to be a nightmare introducing myself to people otherwise!!!

Pm begbie or nigel.

Ross

June / July sounds good for me.

Dont be expecting 350+ though, about 300 is where I aim to be.

Get that graph up Craig! Stewards' enquiry!! Yep, agree with you about the PRV v Greedy - will have to invest in one VERY soon! I can recommend upgrading the barkes & suspension - it takes the whole Coupe experience to another level. Me & Tynhead (& Cowboy) have recently been converted to the Whiteline ARB. The confidence to know you can stop the beast with that power gives you a warm feeling too!

I'm up for a Summer RR session post-mods too - not sure about a Scooby v Coupe meet though - I don't like losing! I was talking to the big guy that turned up afterwards in the light coloured Scooby - he was running 350bhp!

Here are my pics of the session:

Red Blue Red Silver Red Blue

Atmospheric Lighting (OK, it was overcast!)

Sprinty stands out from the pack

I'm your biggest fan!

Mona gets plugged in

Spot the rare non-LE's!!

Mona's Run - The Movie!

thats nearly 50% increase from last time though Matt

Got most of the way there already

...and still on a standard turbo. Once I put Ross' 28R on and get an AVCR / Profec B that should see me up to 300 ish, might need mapping though which I probably wont be able to do before June.

Pm me nearer the time

Ross

[Quote]Someone give me a shout in a month or two and we will start getting an SXOC v FCCUK shootout organised at dynodemon [quote]




OK, I'll do some liaising on the SXOC Site then post up details on here.

might be up for this, as long as it doesn't interfere with TOTB

should be a great day!

Nigel, that'd be great. As Ross has said, we'll need some of you big power boys there on the day as the SXOC seem to take these things very seriously.

I've already offered to run this around TOTB 7 so it'd be a nice "shakedown" for the competitors.

might be best looking at Santa Pod/Crail events to make sure it doesn't clash with RWYB or Peak Performance days!

I've just spoken to Julian at Dyno Demon and the only weekend available in June / July is 5th / 6th July. The British GP is on the 12th / 13th and they are unavailable on the last 2 weekends in June.

As it's Summer, they'll stay open till early evening and reckon they can get through 30 cars throughout the day with the same levels of attention / service etc.

I'll now contact Ste on the SXOC then post up a new Thread with details.

This thread totally went OT

Yeah was only running base boost dome tit in a accord was thinking he was he he-man so i had to show him the error of his ways the funny think was he tried it again at the roundabout MUPPET!! Still 263bhp running shit was ok ish lol see ya at the next one!!

Clay

I'll be down for that by then the car should be running mint!!

Clay

New Thread now started for the FCCUK "V" SXOC RR Day.

Finally got my graphs scanned;

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w25/MABR1/graph3.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w25/MABR1/graph4.jpg

MABR now runs for cover as the knowledgeable ones disect the details.

MABR - just like me you had max bhp at fairly low revs - 5300rpm. Is this normal can anyone tell us?

James

it would be lower on a standard turbo, it runs out of puff! on a GT28R it should be higher up the rev range!

standard boost on a standard turbo would be 5750 max power wouldnt it?

So if you increase the boost then because it's falling back down more steeply from a higher level max power would be a bit sooner....

I think

I had 277 hp at 5200 rpm (standard turbo) and 274hp at 5500 so very similar to you MABR.
MABR don´t you have more than 280 lb/ft?

Yeah but I rounded it down.

At last! Got my vids up on photobucket. Blimmin' 100MB limit, had to crop 3 of them to fit.

So here we are, linked by reg:

P111RKS
Mine
S819BNM
J8WJS

Not sure if that's the right order of running, but what the heck. Sorry there's not more.

Oh, and here's a slideshow of all the previous photos, for those with lazy index fingers Slideshow

Martyn

Ya got some good pic's there m8.

whose are the last 2 videos of?

s819 bnm is me

whos is the green r reg 1? the 1 with blue samcos? i recognise it.

J8WJS is mine but took a deposit on it Monday night,I think ill regret selling every time I look out the window but can always buy another if 968 ownership fails to fill the gap.

Thats mine m8 didnt get a run tho

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/clay99uk/CIMG0599.jpg

This is my run from afew weeks ago pre EBC hat aint workin
msg ref paul205

Sorry Clay, I have got a video of you on the rollers after all. Uploading it now so you should see it on here in a bit. 98.8Mb so may take a while.

BTW my missus spotted you on Queensferry bypass a couple of days ago, and reminded me that we were checking out your car in BK carpark a couple of weeks ago (posted in 'coupe spotting') Don't know if you clocked me, her plus daughter gawping as we left.

Thought it looked familiar when you turned up at the RR, but couldn't place it...

Martyn

Will check out the vid when is uploaded m8. It looks well just in need of some new paint (coming soon)

Clay

Here ya go!

Clay

Shame you didn't get a graph up tho, next time eh?

Martyn

Gonna post the vid of the last time i was there in jan with the graph for you to have a look at..

Clay

what power are you hoping for with the new controller mate? next time i see ya ul have to stop and take me4 a spin in it.

Hoping for over 300 m8 when ya next out up wrexham?
here is the vid of my 283.8 bhp run at dyno demon

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/clay99uk/?action=view¤t=CIMG0543.flv

Clay

nice looks good, im out around wrexham/chester quite often more at weekends if il see you il flash.