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Rice and pasta packaging rant

Posted By: Gripped

Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 20:05

Why is it impossible to open one of these packs without the plastic tearing open spilling your rice / pasta everywhere. And to add insult to injury, the "resealable" tags stick about as well as a politician to a pre election promise. grr
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 20:38

We stand shoulder to shoulder on rice and pasta packaging. What on earth is that about?
Posted By: barnacle

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 20:52

The idea with spaghetti is that you grip the packet loosely and bang it down, end first, onto a table. The pasta then emerges from the end, at which point you cook far too much.

As for the others - there seems to be an entire industry whose main function in life is to make packaging which cannot be opened tidily nor resealed once opened. See also dried beans, sultanas, and 100g herb packets.

And don't get me started on the glue they use to stick the end of flour packets down with...
Posted By: DaveG

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 21:09

Talking of glue, why can't they make a container for SuperGlue that doesn't stick itself shut solid after only half a dozen applications? It never used to be that difficult to make it last a long time rolleyes
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 21:17

Originally Posted By: barnacle
The idea with spaghetti is that you grip the packet loosely and bang it down, end first, onto...


Yes, spaghetti. Try that with farfoli. There is no reason to make packaging from plastic that tears in random directions. Force these people to use their packaging as drinking vessels and condoms. Then we'll see some common sense!
Posted By: Gripped

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 21:21

Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell
Force these people to use their packaging as drinking vessels and condoms. Then we'll see some common sense!


Classic ! laugh
Posted By: barnacle

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 21:32

Memory from my younger days working in BBC Leeds - watching voxpop of some young lasses from, um, Sheffield I think, saying how careful they were during sex, using crisp packets as condoms... :eek:
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 22:11

Ah, Sheffield, City of my Cheese'n'onion youth...!
Posted By: PeteP

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 30/10/2014 22:57

Originally Posted By: barnacle
Memory from my younger days working in BBC Leeds - watching voxpop of some young lasses from, um, Sheffield I think, saying how careful they were during sex, using crisp packets as condoms... :eek:


It was cling film and rubber bands at Magna Carta School, Egham during the late 1970s and early 1980s according to my mother who taught there.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 00:52

Originally Posted By: barnacle
using crisp packets as condoms... :eek:


That's a foil to conceive...

Originally Posted By: PeteP

It was cling film and rubber bands at Magna Carta School, Egham during the late 1970s and early 1980s according to my mother who taught there.



I'm trying to imagine how you got on to that topic of conversation with your esteemed mater, Pete.


Easy solution = always cut the top of the packet with scissors.

Forget the non-stick sticky tab, use an elastic band.


QED.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 06:44

I believe it was the teat from a baby's milk bottle around here.... Not that I ever quite understood the mechanics.

On food packaging - I appreciate the easy open cans but why is it the more likely the contents are to stain (red tomato based contents) the more likely that as you draw the lid back you get a difficult bit followed by a release of tension and the contents sprayed in all directions?
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 06:47

Originally Posted By: Big_Muzzie

On food packaging - I appreciate the easy open cans but why is it the more likely the contents are to stain (red tomato based contents) the more likely that as you draw the lid back you get a difficult bit followed by a release of tension and the contents sprayed in all directions?


That only applies if you're grumpy. Or can-twang-kerous.
Posted By: Carlscott

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 08:42

Hopefully I'm not the only one but

I sometimes have trouble opening packs of bacon, they have that little pull back section on the corner of the packaging but it always snaps and I always end up cutting a straight slice down the side with a knife.
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 08:59

+1
Posted By: Gripped

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 09:01

+2 Every single time.
Posted By: Begbie

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 09:17

Yep, same here with the bacon.

With regards to the rice, go to Sainsbury and get some Thai style rice. It comes in different packets that are made of cardboard and you can re-seal them, no joke!
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 09:26

Yup - I despair of a lot of packaging. I used to work in this part of the industry and "access" was one of our key measures. Some packaging (like those security blister packs) is downright dangerous. Like others, I've learned that good scissors or a sharp knife is often the only way to get into some packaging.
Posted By: jimbob13

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 09:34

I've found an incredibly effective diet, only buy Co-op microwave meals.
Can't get the film off a single damn one of them.
Posted By: Nigel

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 10:35

I reckon there's an entire sub-industry within the mobile phone industry, to try to design a box as small as possible for a given phone + accessories, with the subsidiary aim of making sure that its completely impossible to put it all back in again when you come to sell the phone a year or so later - how do they do that - wizardry?
Posted By: jimbob13

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 11:10

Originally Posted By: Nigel
how do they do that - wizardry?

Nah, unstable dimensional transcendentalism.
Posted By: Roadking

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 11:13

Corned beef tins. Always need a pair of pliers handy for when the key tab breaks off...
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 11:34

The stupid pull-out plug in the top of some cooking oil/soy sauce/fruit juice. You can't pull it out without firing a salvo of the contents across the kitchen.

And the clear plastic over the lid of things like Listerine - it has perforations to make you think it will tear off, but no. It won't.

Much like the things that look like zips on cardboard packaging. Do they ever work?

Blimey, looks like I'm not a packaging fan.
Posted By: MeanRedSpider

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 11:44

Ah, Jim, but isn't it wonderful when you find one that just works?!
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 12:14

I don't know!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 14:36

I'm with you all on the rice and pasta. We have loads of dried fruits too and even those little plastic clips to reseal bags are pointless if the bag is ripped.

Packets of cooked meats also annoy me. The little tab which you peel back is in one corner. However, the sliced meat inside is actually stacked in an oftset little pile so that the top one is nearest to the other corner. This means you have to peel open the pack further to get that one, or try to manouvre the bottom one out somehow. grr
Posted By: ali_hire

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 16:09

This is why IKEA sell those clear jars so you can have your rice and pasta on display in your kitchen like a trendy Swede.
Posted By: Gripped

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 16:56

Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Much like the things that look like zips on cardboard packaging. Do they ever work?


And tax discs (now defunct of course) but the perforations were never good enough to prevent me ripping the disc, so I used to resort to scissors.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 17:50

Slightly off subject, but i had 2 bonnet struts and a grab handle delivered today. They were wrapped in plastic first, then covered in layers of masking tape and then covered in reams of selotape ! Took me ages to get into it, even with scissors . Never will i moan about " listerine " again !
Posted By: Jim_Clennell

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 18:14

Originally Posted By: glenn1960
Slightly off subject, but i had 2 bonnet struts and a grab handle delivered today. They were wrapped in plastic first, then covered in layers of masking tape and then covered in reams of selotape ! Took me ages to get into it, even with scissors . Never will i moan about " listerine " again !


Fair comment. These are all rather first world problems!
Posted By: jimbob13

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 19:01

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Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 19:38

Originally Posted By: jimbob13
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laugh

Oh the irony!
Posted By: ali_hire

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 19:40

Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell


Fair comment. These are all rather first world problems!


I'm sure that if we started to send aid to Africa in the kind of packaging those scissors are in they would sympathise.
Posted By: Edinburgh

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 19:46

Being sort of elected to be i/c laundry in the BumbleBee household I wash my black and yellow pyjamas by hand get annoyed with the soap powder boxes which are initially apparently leakproof when you buy them but start to shed fine trails of powder as soon as you breach their defences.

Especially when eking the last grains from the container, you tip it up and the bloody stuff pours out of every cardboard orifice immediately prior to you treading in it and tramping it into all the nearby rugs frown
Posted By: Gripped

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 21:08

Originally Posted By: Edinburgh
Originally Posted By: jimbob13
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laugh

Oh the irony!



Now, that reminds me. The same tough and sharp plastic packaging that printer cartridges and various tools come in.

You virtually need to borrow the "jaws of life" from the Fire Service to open the packaging. And when you do, you usually sever your carotid artery on the sharp edges.

I've lost count of the pints of blood I've had transfused after severing various main arteries on such items. You'd think I'd have learned by now. Once, I died 3 times in the same day. crazy
Posted By: jimbob13

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 21:42

At the risk of actually bringing down the tone of this thread with a semi serious post, open that type of packaging with a can opener. Far quicker, easier and tidier than the jaws of life... and slightly fewer deaths per package.
Posted By: Roadking

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 22:37

Originally Posted By: Edinburgh
get annoyed with the soap powder boxes which are initially apparently leakproof when you buy them but start to shed fine trails of powder


They still use soap powder in Scotland? My mum is almost 80 and uses liquid...
Posted By: Joe78

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 22:40

I work in the food industry, though not with rice or pasta.

The reason behind the packaging tearing issue is simply cost. A thinner polypropylene film is cheaper, but is more susceptible to tearing when subjected to very little stress.

Think of crisp packets, the value ones are 30 micron film and have the rice/pasta packet issue. The posh ones like kettle chips etc use 60 or 80 micron and are much more robust.

Like most things, it all comes down to cost.

Posted By: jimboy

Re: Rice and pasta packaging rant - 31/10/2014 22:43

Obviously, facetious comments aside, the scissor way or the tin opener way depending on what you decide, to be honest if you use the correct procedure no big deal. Then again it all depends how you think how difficult an easy procedure can or cannot be.... laugh
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