twin disk clutch from brazil anyone?

I was given a link

http://www.displatec.com.br/produtos.asp?menu=produto&pagina=0&ctrl=1
to investigate. Bottom of the page there is a marea 20vt setup (which should fit our cars) and its twin disk (from what I gather)
Anyone familiar with this company?
A couple of powerful 20vts down here are thinking about it.

Cheers

V.

well - IIRC, there are tow HUGELY powerful 20VTs engines in Brasil (both in Mareas I think) - well over 600bhp, so I guess they have access to some serious clutch technology

Might be worth trying to get hold of the owners to ask - their details are in the Hall of Fame

how much?? (in £gbp)

i dont understand brazillian !!!(portugese? spanish?)

I think brazilian is portugese, Neil will be here in a min. to correct me

Mine Helix was a bit over a grand all in but I expect this will be less. How usable it is will be the other question, as mine is pretty decent compared to many other twin plates I have used.

I use that one from http://www.scara73.it

quanto costo Kenneth?
was it easy to install?
[you are talking about the twin disk one, right?]

V.

if i remember corectly around 1100 euro, easy to install, but beware, of allmost every twinplate clutch you have to convert to push system....

Yes, speak Portuguese in Brazil.

Hi, I'm from Brazil, got a Fiat Marea 20VT with 667cv at the wheels and 74kgfm of torque, is currently the most powerful 20VT of Brazil.

I already used Displatec clucthes and did not have success, not suported the hi torque.

I use a clutch I developed in conjunction with the Freyomáquinas Special Clutches, a company similar to the Displatec here in Brazil.

This is a kit with reversal of the system, push type becomes, double membrane and 1600lbs, disc with 6 ceramic inserts without springs, the bearing and the parts needed to reverse the system are the Alfa 164 12V, Support of the cylinder and forks.

Most 20VT forged over 500cv and 60kgfm of Brazil use this kit and endorsing, is currently our best clutch.

Its all plug and play, you do not have any difficulty to mount, easy, and fully supported the 74kgfm of torque, and support up to 85kgfm estimate.

This kit here in Brazil expense + or - USD $ 800.00 dollars.

Pics of clucth kit:

Clutch Kit 1
Clutch Kit 2
Clutch Kit 3

A hug
Mathew.

Ahh thanks

Mathew, thanks for the info and pics
How ON-OFF is the feel of this thing? No springs doesn't sound very smooth getting the car moving...
Could you please explain?

Same to you Kenneth, are there springs on the disk, is it smooth or very on-off?

Cheers

V.

The springs on the disk you would soften vibration, but the discs with springs that were still wearing broken very easily, the springs create wear very quickly and fall off, then we have done a disc without springs and incredible as it seems he has less vibration in time to start with the car, was softer and did not break more. I drive my car on a daily and the clucth is behaving perfectly and smoothly, no ON/OFF.

I think this kit you can develop equal, using the same parts, if need any more tips I provide you with no problems!

Cheers
Mathew.

Mathew:
I just looked at the Displatec site and saw that they have Embreagem Cerâmica for Marea Turbo 20.0 20v.
Is this a Cerametallic plate? How many pads? 6?
Do you know if anyone in Brazil has used this clutch kit?

Best regards
Freddan

Off Topic - Mathew, 36PSI of boost? You're crazy

Good morning everyone,

Starting today, we from Displatec are greatfull to enjoy this forum with you. You can ask any questions about our products directly to our company, we are here to help and not let any dought about our clutchs and twin clutchs.

Our clutchs are made to support 80kgfm of torque or more if it is necessary.

We have cerametallic discs with 4 or 6 pads or sintered-metallic discs with 6 pads. To marea we have twin disc clutch (Multdisc Clutch) with carbon cerametallic pads.

We are thankfull to participate in this forum and i'm sorry if i made any english mistake.

Waiting a answer.

Respectfully,
Displatec Team.

Hi Displatec,

Welcome to FCCUK!

I have a Fiat Coupe 2.0 20v turbo
I need some info about cerametallic discs. How is it different from a organic disc?
How much torque can the 6 pad cerametallic clutch hold?
How much torque can the 6 pad sintered-metallic clutch hold?

Do you sell complete kit (pressure plate, disc & bearing)?

How much for shipping to Europe?

Good evening Freddan

The cerametallic disc have a coefficient of friction higher than the organic disc so it can support more touch and adjusted with a higher pressure on the cover diaphragm spring it can work efficienttly with a stronger car.

The 6 pad disc can hold a higer touch than a 4 pad because it has a higher contact area. The sintered-metallic have a coefficient of friction higher than the cerametallic.

A cerametallic disc with a 980lbs cover cluth and a 6 pad disc can hold a 400cv or 394 hp.

Our Multidisc clutch can hold a 1000cv car 986hp, we assembly it with cerametallic disc or sitered-metallic disc.
In the pictures below we show our Multdisc:

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2765/multidisc1ot4.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7778/multdiscbottonav4.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9144/multdiscsideuo6.jpg

I don't know if i'm allowed to say prices on the forum, if anyone say that ok, i will say it.

Thank you for the question.

Respectfully
Displatec Team.

Hi there and welcome.

What clutch would you recommend for running 400-450bhp?

Also how much would it cost?

Thanks.

Good afternoon paddy,

The perfect clutch for your need is a cerametallic disc with 6 pads and a 980lbs cover cluth. Our disc had a special waster heat that don't let it warp.

I don't know yet if i can say openly the price so i will send you it by particular messagem.

Could you tell me your contry just to calculate the delivery ?


Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Thanks for the reply.

I live in Ireland

Can you PM me a price please?

Also how reliable would this clutch be.And would be hard to use in city traffic at slow speed?

And is it a straight fit to my car.Are any modifications need to fit it?

Thanks.

What about normal city driving with a cerametalic one?Does it judder?

Good evening,

In the first few miles it judder a little bit, because this is inherent to the cerametalic material. But after this you won't fell this little judder anymore.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

hi there,

slightly confused, you mean that the judder goes away, or that you get used to it?

can I have a PM with prices for a twin plate setup good for 600bhp please?
Also another quote for what Paddy wants
Delivery to Athens, Greece

and before it gets a bit too much, I don't think its a problem stating prices in the forum, is there Mr & Ms MoDs?

Cheers

V.

In the CDM (Club of Marea) I am not aware of any Marea Turbo using this kit, so I can not give you more details unfortunately.

Most of the Mareas 20VT in the CDM use the same clutch kit of my car.



Thank's Begbie.

Cheers
Mathew.

Good evening Freddan,

It's hard to say how many cars use our clutch and multidisc clutch kit, because the are many. What we don't know is if all of them are membership of Marea Club. One of them that we know that participate and use our clutch kit is Fabi_ny from Motortech.

I hope we help.

Best Regards,
Displatec Team.

I think it should be okay to say prices, as i'm curious and am sure there are others who are too

Yes please!Tell us!!!

Our clutch kit (clutch cover 980lbs + 6 pads disc, without the bearing)is U$ 465,00 + delivery (depends the contry,15 days).

It would stay easy to trigger and won't be be too hard to use in city traffic at slow speed, clearly won't be soft as the original one but will not be uncomfortable to use.

In the few miles it judder a little bit, because this is inherent to the cerametalic material, after this the disc will start "building" with the flywheel and the clutch cover.

Our Multidisc clutch kit (clutch cover with 800lbs + 2 discs with 4 carbon cerametalic pad, without the bearing)is U$ 1047,00 + U$ 190,00 (delivery, 15 days), you won't need any flywheel you screw it in the crankshaft.

You won't need any modifications to fit it and this one is easy to trigger as the original. I hope i've asnwered the questions.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Now that is cheap when compared to the Helix 6 padel or other sililar items.

Agree!But can be cheaper if we organise a group buy!!Right??

How relaiable is the 6 plate/pad clutch,how many miles can you do before it wears out?

Also would can you use the original bearing with the clutch or does this have to be upgreded too?

Would this clutch kit really hold with 450bhp?And how many miles would it take to loose the judder?

The 6 plate clutch would work out at 373 euro for me and thats including shipping to Ireland..

Now that is CHEAP.

Paddy, are you going to be the European guinnea pig then?



My clutch is still OK, but don't know how much longer it will get me so I need to prepare

V.

may aswell,Im looking for a clutch kit to handle 450bhp so I may aswell try this out.

I want a discount though for trying it out and being test european test mule.

How much do you want if you include bearing? Or can I buy bearing separate from FIAT?
How much for delivery to Sweden?

Paddy: I also want to test this clutch. So let´s hope for a good discount

Regards
Freddan

So how do I order and pay for this clutch kit then Displatec?

You still here Displatec??

It's the weekend Paddy, even in Brazil!

...and it's almost summer down there now, so no wonder

serious, are you going to get one Paddy?
I'd really like to see someone testing the twin plate one

V.

Yes,if Displatec can sort out shipping to Ireland and can guarantee that the clutch kit is good for 450bhp then Im deffinately getting the clutch kit.

Good morning paddy,

The life time of the clutch depends how you use it,because this i can tell you exactly.

About the bearing i'll check out here and i'll tell it price.

And yes it will hold your 450bhp car and to stop the little judder i told it takes about 1500 to 2000 milles.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Good morning Freddan,

I'll check out for you how much it cost here and add to the clutch price, but you can buy bearing separate from FIAT there. I'm checking the payment way too. Thank's to everyone .


Best regards,
Displatec Team

Keep in mind you will have to pay tax for incoming packages!!

Good morning,

I've talked to my maganer and he said just to mail us and i'll send a proforma invoice with our count and all the necessary information for the bank deposit. We can send with the bearing. Send us on the email the complete delivery address and a fone number. In a few ours i'll send you a picture of the clutch kit.

Thank you for the trust.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Sorry,

I forgot to inform the email address: projetos@displatec.com.br.


Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Not if the part is marked as a gift or free soample part.

be careful because doing this customs have been known to not release items! I find it makes more sense to bite the bullet and just pay the customs ;-)
Paul

I know how it feels,I got stung for 450 euro for a carbon bonnet and also 400 euro for a turbo kit.

Displatec is a company that has 25 years in the clutch market, i guarantee that this will not happen with us. Any doubt please can call us +55 +11 25247334 / +55 +11 25243231.

I'm sending de parts pictures:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3644/80218185fu4.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9708/49780433ug2.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6103/99160136hv3.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4876/22879319gs1.jpg

Our disc has specials reliefs and waster heat to not warp. The cover clutch has 980lbs.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Nice.

I WANT THAT CLUTCH KIT.

@ Displatec-I have emailed you and also PM,ed my name and address for an invoice

Just got the invoice from Displatec,all in including shipping to ireland its costing 594 US dollars for complete 6 plate clutch kit and that equates to 460 euro for the entire kit,including the bearing too.

To me that is a very very good deal,when you consider how much more the likes of Helix 6 paddel clutch and others are.

Very happy with that price.I will have the clutch kit in 15 days or there abouts.

@ Displatec or anyone whos knows.......................

What is the difference between the 6 plate with the coils/springs in it and the 6 plate without the springs/coils?

What is best suited for 450bhp?

depends if you want an on / off feel to the clutch, or some some progressive bite to it.

Clutches are rated in torque, not bhp

Good afternoon,

The coils on the disc works to facilitate the gear shift interlock. On a strong car its isn't necessary because the high torque make te interlock faster and the coils lose their work. For a strong car like yours paddy we recomend a uncoil disc. I hope i've helped.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Flea gets by with a single plate clutch with more than that and more torque than you're likely to make. Unlike a lot of items you really want to go with the lowest spec you can get away with because it makes the clutch more usable.

That said with my high torque I could not get away with a single plate which is why I have a Helix twin plate. With high boost I could easily get upwards of 550lbs/ft (not that I run high boost)

Thanks for that.

I sent have sent you the money for the clutch kit from my bank here in Ireland.

You should have the money in 3 days time.

I dont want the on off feel,but something that will be able to hold and not slip so which do you think is best suited?

Coiled or uncoiled?

Right Ive decided on the uncoil disc (one without springs) upon the advice via an email from the Displatec team.

So we shall wait and see how good the clutch kit is.Cant wait to get it now,Im like a little kid waiting on Santa Claus now.LOL

sorry, but you're something like a slightly faster version of Begbie, no?
I mean it's not that the car is ready to go and it's the clutch missing, is it?

Good luck and we are waiting for a proper report once the car is back on the road!

Cheers

V.

Just had an email today from Displatec,they recieved my money and the clutch kit is on its way to me.

I'm very interested in this kit can you keep the thread going with some info when fitted please/
Cheers
Paul

6 paddle clutch kit has arrived,fast delievery time from Brazil too.

Pic.Well happy.Thanks Displatec.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/alfa147turbo/IMG_0060.jpg

Paddy, please provide some feeback when fitted & bedded in


not that I need a new clutch, as my ceremetallic HELIX 6 paddle is one step below the twin plate I was going for, but it was so heavy, it was alarming, but a pukka fit for the coop, so much so, that Barbz always managed to destroy box's well before the clutch ever got bedded in

...a real pioneer.

I'm just interested in any other variant. Let me know if it judders, mine barely does, but will a tad if you pull away below 1k ( these clutches are meant to grip, NOT SLIP )

cheers

yep,wont be sub 1000 revs that for sure,more like 2000 rpm just to reverse the bloody thing.

any updates on this paddy? as ill be looking for a new clutch within the next couple of weeks. ill need my clutch to handle near 450 bhp as well so ill have to go for the same set up as you.

Should have the car up and running with the new turbo engine for Xmass.

Any news Paddy?
How is the new clutch in traffic?

Not installed yet,due to me being off work sick due to an accident and not being able to drive.

I hope you get better soon

On the road to recovery,slowly though,1 day at a time.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/alfa147turbo/IMG_0518.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/alfa147turbo/IMG_0517.jpg

Hehe what is that nice and shiny thing behind the disc?

Lightweight billet flywheel.

Nice!
Where did you buy it?
Weight?

Solid 1 piece billet steel and only 3.7 kilos in weight.

Fully balanced and surface sealed too.

Sounds lovely

I'm thinking of buying a 4 kg flywheel from Protoxide.

Any joy on getting the clutch fitted Paddy? could do with one asap but would like your feedback first before I order one.

Has anyone tryed this yet i guess at paddy147 ???

Need a new clutch and after speaking to mardi gras and deciding i dont want to sell any of my organs im looking down other avenues.

If not i may well just gamble on it

Steve

From reading the whole thread I get the impression that this clutch could be a good deal for all fiat coupes as an alternative to Helix providing it does what it says and is durable. Helix is a proven brand but could this kit cut the mustard?

The description of its behaviour sounds exactly like my Helix 6 paddle. 1000 miles of judder then nice and smooth.

I would like to know the actual MAX ft/lb rating for this 6 paddle kit.

And why did you get the plate without the damping springs? (as Helix has springs)

Good morning everyone,

Using the disc without the damping springs it judder less the with the damping springs.
This springs doesn't work to absorv the impact from a faster shifter, if works to slow the gearbox and the shift enter smoother and do not sacrifice much the synchronized rings from the gearbox. The probability of break the disc without the spring is less than with the springs and without the springs the shift becames more faster.

Any doubts just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Thanks for the info but what about the MAX ft/lb rating?

The original clutch cover from Coupe we can put just 10% more (600lbs original), if you get the ft/lb higher than 10% from the original your bearing can escape and cause an accident.

If you invert the system you can get cover plate until 1400lbs. Any question just ask.

Best Regards,
Displatec Team.

hey displatec, just wondering if you could point me in the right direction. I want a clutch to handle arround 500 ft/lb of torque to be on safe side. which clutch do you recommend and how much will it all cost to be sent to london.

Thanx regards
Nick

Displatec that still doesn't answer my question. I want to know the rating of your clutch in ft/lb for the 6paddle using your pressure plate without inverting to 1400lbs.

Good morning Nick,

If your clutch system is original (pull system) we can supply you a Displatec clutch because we don't have it here in Brazil, just the clutch in the push system. But i recomend you a 10% clutch cover and a 6 pads disc.

Any question just ask.

Best Regards,
Displatec Team.

Good morning TurboJ,

Yes we'he replied you, the original pull system pressure is about 500 to 520lbs. When we make we plus it 10% more (600lbs), it's all we can do, more then this your bearing can escape. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

I thought you meant that spring rating on the pressure has 600lbs of clamping force. OK so it can take up to 600ft/lb with the 6paddle and the original pull system?

Good afternoon TurboJ,

Sorry but i don't have this parts here in Brazil, just the parts for the push system.

What i can do for you is a Multdisc clutch until 3 disc that can replace this kit without any modification. I'll post a picture of it for more explanations. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

I think I speak for all when I say the real interest here is the kit you sold to paddy147. When will you be getting more in stock?

Good afternoon,

Paddy bought the clutch kit for the push system as we cab see on the pictures he posted and i posted before. Here i'm posting the pictures of our Multdisc Clutch for the pull system. We make here in Brazil for Marea (almost the same clutch of the Coupe) and Subaru.



Any questions just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

i want i may have to have

i really do over kill well

ok, so i have a pull clutch system (original), im not clutch expert so whatever you recommend for 500ft/lb of torque, whatever you sujest i need, is what i will be looking to buy. so how much will whatever you sujest cost including postage to london in the uk?

cheers regards
Nick

OK just to be 100% as I’m getting a bit lost.

Your 6paddle kit rated to 600ft/lb is a push system and includes everything needed to convert our pull to push for the UK.

Your multidisc rated to 1400ft/lb kit is a pull system and is a direct fit for our pull system.

Is that correct?

Good afternoon Nick,

I sujest you to look a clutch cover with 10% more force and a 6 pad disc. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

ok that is what i will look at. Price to uk all in? pm me price if you dont want to say over forum cheers.

Good afternoon TurboJ,

Just a little bit, lets answer:

The original clutch kit for the Coupe we don't have it. The explanation of the 600lbs is what we do here in Brazil for a similar car (Marea 2.0 20V), but this clutch doesn't work com Coupe, were just a example.

We can sell the complete clutch kit and the pasts to reverse the clutch system for U$ 900.00 + delivery. Or just the reverse (push system) clutch kit for U$ 502.00 + delivery.

The Multdisc clutch system doesn't need any modification and is plug'n play. As you can see it substitute all the clutch kit including the flywheel. This kit with 2 discs cost U$ 1,600.00 + delivery.

Any questions just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Can you just confirm exactly what I get for $900?

And exactly what I get for $502?

Good afternoon TurboJ,

For U$ 900 = The reversed cover plate + disc + bearing + cylinder drive support + fork drive + lever drive;

For U$ 502 = The reversed cover plate + disc + bearing

The original kit for your car we don't have, because here in Brazil the Coupe were lunched with a diferent engine and gearbox. Any questions just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

-

so are you saying that reversing the system is a must. this has to be done to buy a clutch from you? that would make $900 + delivery £596 at the current rate thats not including delivery and maybe import taxes does that not throw the clutch straight into the same price bracket as the helix?

ok thats what my pm said

Nick that's exactly it. If the system didn't require reversing then $502 would be a bargin.

when somthing seems too good to be true it usualy is as they say this was looking like a good deal for us until finding out having to reverse the system.

That's why I asked so many questions. I'll call Helix 2morrow maybe they can do us a deal

TBH, reversing the way the clutch works is not that hard. You need the gearbox off, remove the circlip from the top clutch arm, take the arm off, then you need to slide the bit that holds the thrust bearing up, then the bottom of it should be out of the gearbox, then the top will slide out the bottom, stick the new bit, arm and circlip, job done. These parts can be robbed off a tipo 16v or 'grale 8v

That's intresting to know. But will the bearing fit the tipo/'grale arm? If it's that simple why is he charging $400 extra for just an arm? Guess some more digging is required

sorry to be dumb but havent had the box out or really got involved with the boxes on these YET but is the same for the six speed..

Jason, let us know when you have some news from Helix

I need a new kit for my future "400HP" 20VT. The 5 paddle clutch i've bought in Germany is cr*p... bad release bearing + very hard pressure plate... they undo every 100 miles

Actually i'm working on my headcam like you did in the past (porting + matching) so i have a few months in front of me to choose the best clutch for my project.

I was ready to go for Helix 6 paddle clutch kit but reversed Displatec clutch seems to be good too. I have to make the good choice this time.


Displatec : What about the slave cylinder with your reversed kit? Do we have to move it from the original place to use with the new fork/level drive?

Well if it's the same size as the pull type bearing (which i think it is) then it should fit.

OK don't know if this is hijacking or what but I have made a deal with Helix. Not another group buy but hey I will start one if there is interest.

A single 6 plate paddle kit:
£620.52 inc VAT + £14 UK Delivery

If I order 3+ more 6 plate paddle
£551.57 inc VAT + £14 UK delivery or £34 EU Delivery

3+ more 4 plate paddle
£539.23 inc VAT + £14 UK delivery or £34 EU Delivery

If I get enough interest it may be a GB but this one will be very swift I’m not hanging around if Nick, Steve & MiniPit can pay by next week. PM me if there is interest.

YHPM Jason

Will be interested in 6 paddle kit if the offered pressure plate is the heaviest version

EDIT : Heaviest plate is available so i'm OK with your GB

GB started:
http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=830043&#Post830043

Good morning,

The slave cylinder keep it on the same position, what you need is just reverse the principal cylinder.

As Begbie said:



Here in Brazil, to reverse the system we use parts from a car called Tempra Turbo. As Begbie said (the cylinder drive support, fork drive and the lever drive) can be used from Tipo 16v, so you will just our clutch system and the bearing, so becames a chip and good choice. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Good morning everyone,

With the pictures of the original Coupe clutch kit on another post we could see better the kit. After looking for on our
stock we found this clutch.

So, starting now WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL COUPE KIT AND WE CAN MAKE A STEEL FLYWHEEL FOR IT.Until the end of the day here i will post the pictures of it. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Good afternoon,

As i promisse, the pictures of our original Coupe clutch kit



The prices are:

- Clutch cover + 6 pads disc = U$ 480.00 + delivery
- Clutch cover + HD disc = U$ 410.00 + delivery

Both kits go without the bearing, becouse you can use your original bearing, without any modification.

Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

I´m now a little confused....
so these kits go straight to coupe ?

and can handle what ?

Good afternoon jtm,

Yes, the HD clutch can handle until 350hp, the kit with ceramic pads can handle until 650hp. More than that you will need a multdisc clutch.

Anything just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

What about prices for flywheel ?
And how much do they weight

Good afternoon,

The Coupe flywheel weight minimum 4,5kg (SAE 1045 Steel)and the price for it is U$ 420,00 + delivery. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

So are we 100000000% sure this clutch is a plug and play direct fit to the original pull system of the 20vt ?

i have never been so confused in my life lol so for a clutch to handle 650bhp is $480+delivery? and this will definatly fit no problem what so ever?

same here..
if this goes without any problems, this is absolutely the BEST price for 650hp clutch ..

Don’t take is as an attack but I find it very concerning that you say you have been doing clutches for 25 years yet only now you realise that you make a kit for our car that everyone has been asking for throughout this thread.

The price is amazing and I will fully understand if anyone wants to pull out of the Helix GB and go for this one but before you do just note these facts:

Helix is proven in motorsport

Helix is fully proven on the UK coupe

UK delivery so no custom charges

Release is about £50.

I think you are out of line for doing this on this thread,I think you should remove your posts aboput a group buy to be honest as its not fair on anyone or Displatec either.

since you're beating a 6month old thread, how about someone asking Mathew again? He said at his first post in the thread that he didn't have much luck with these clutches and developed something else...

V.

Actually at the time what Displatec was offering what not what people wanted so to be fair the GB was only made to help those who wanted clutches. Now Displatec is offering this deal which should have been said earlier then there would have been no need for the GB in the first place. The GB is running but if people wanna pull out and get the Displatec clutch that’s fine.

I'll let moderators see fit what to do but I don't think it’s out of line.

Well I think you are,you are out of line,

Keep the group buy to that thread and allow Displatec to talk to people here on this forum.

You are out of line and you know you are.You have jumped in when there is no need for it

A decent man would remove the posts about a group buy.

Allow Displatec to reply and he has stated that the clutch will fit.

So leave it at that now and you stick to your own group buy thread now.

Regards.

Good afternoon,

Yes, we are 100% sure that our clutch kit is plug'n play on Coupe. And the U$ 480 (without bearing)+ delivery is the clutch that can handle 650bhp. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

You mention bhp but how much torque can they hold?

now this is starting to sound good again but TurboJ does have a point. displatec can you tell us who uses these clutch's from you? im guessing marea clutch is diffent as its push type system? or would it be the same clutch just reversed? and can anyone confirm from a marea forum that these clutch's are actualy capable of holding big torque as the only person that has used displatec so far (mathew) hasnt had success but i supose in his case its a little different because he runs so much power.

Good morning,

Our clutch can hold until 40kgf.m or 400Nm.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

400NM is 295lbs/ft

Good morning TurboNick,

We have a lot of cars using this clutch kit but not everyone use the marea's forum. Mathew's car is a wonderful car and he used the first clutch kit that we've made, and after the problems we had (about 5 years ago)we studied more and more and developed this new kit (about 3 years ago) and we have no problem after.

Our company has 25 years in Brazilian racing market, we are the only company in Brazil that delevop a real multidisc clutch and the faster cars here in drag race use our clutch kit and today we have 6 differents types of multdisc.

For an example we develop for a EVO 8 (4x4 full)a special clutch kit that hold a 98kgf.m (980Nm) of torque. I'm posting the dyno graph. Any question just ask.



And a Marea that use our reversed kit:



Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Good morning,

Your convertion is right, 400 Nm = 295,03 lbs/ft.

And 98kgf.m = 961,0517 Nm = 708,84 lbs/ft.

Any question jus ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Unless your pushing Tigart manifolds on my posts which you thought was OK...
Paul

Hi all.

The original clutch of 20V Turbo Marea is exactly the same as the Coupé 20V Turbo, pull system.

I used a clutch kit of Displatec a few years ago and really did not support the torque produced by the engine, the kit used was with original system (pull system).

So I developed a new kit inverted (push system) and then successfully complete, fully supported more of 74kgfm (535lbs/ft)of torque and never had problems in over 3 years of use, drag races, etc.

Currently the Displatec sells a clucth kit very similar to my(push system), I believe work well and support the torque specified by them.
The Displatec is a very reputable company in Brazil.

Cheers,
Mathew

Cheers mathew I will probably be going for one of these but after I come back from holiday as funds are a little low after blowing my engine. Cheers

Thats a lovely thing to say and also its nice to see you are supportive of Displatec.

Well Done.

UP !!

UP !!

Hi Displatec,

I need a clutch that holds 500 Nm or more. I prefer no sinter disc.
Do you have anything for me?

Good afternoon Freddan,

More than 400Nm without sinter disc can not work well because we can not increse the clutch cover pressure. The life of the clutch will be decresed. The sinter disc compensates this. Any question just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Good evening,

I`d like to show 2 types of clutch that we manufacture completelly on steel.

We have 32 types of double plate clutchs, this ones on the pictures is the PROSTREET RACING, with them it`s not necessary the flywheel anymore and the original clutch.

The first one is for the ones who have the system inverted and the second one for the original system.

INVERTED:


ORIGINAL:


Anything just ask.


Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Good afternoon everybody,

Displatec want to show the new 4 cyl. record here in Brazil with our clutch kit, Multidisc DISPLATEC PROCOMPACT getting over everything.


DRAGSTERBRASIL (www.dragsterbrasil.com - TEXT IN PORTUGUESE):

"Recorde de potência 4 cil (Sapinho Câmbios) - EVO VIII - G&R Drag Race

A G&R Drag Racing obteve grande destaque no ano de 2009 na preparação da Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. Durante todo o ano, a oficina do preparador Rodrigo Corbisier foi invadida por diversos exemplares, que receberam diferentes estágios de preparação. A EVO é um carro extremamente versátil. Deriavada dos bólidos construidos para Rally, possui grande estabilidade oferecida pelo sistema de tração 4x4 inteligente, uma ótima suspensão e também bom sistema de freio. Em sua nona versão, o bólido japonês é equipado com o motor Mitsubishi 4G63, que possui 4 cilindros, cabeçote 16V e turbo-compressor, e é capaz de entregar 283cv de potência! Nada menos que 143cv por litro de motor!
De olho nos ótimos resultados obtidos por Rodrigo em diversas EVO preparadas ao longo do ano, "Moskito", da cidade de Manaus (AM), levou sua EVO VIII, ano 2005, até a G&R Drag Race para receber uma preparação extrema. Mesmo com kits já prontos oferecidos para esse carro, Rodrigo construiu de forma artesanal os coletores de escape, admissão, e também o novo intercooler, dimensionados para a nova potência pretendida para o carro. A EVO recebeu ainda um turbo compressor hibrido da Precision Turbo, modelo 6765 Billet. O bólido, que agora queima alcool, utiliza 4 bicos injetores Ford Racing de 150lbs/h e uma nova calibragem no sistema de injeção, feita por um módulo da americana AEM Power. Com 3.2kg de pressão de turbo, a EVO rendeu nada menos que 1033.7hp no motor, novo recorde de potência para motores 4 cilindros no dinamômetro da Sapinho Cambios!
A Evo de mais de 1000hp poderá ser vista rodando pelas ruas de Manaus e irá participar de algumas provas de arrancada!
A equipe do DragsterBrasil.com parabeniza o preparador Rodrigo Corbisier por esta conquista."



Dino Graph:





MULTIDISC PRO-COMPACT EVO:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_A1c9NZ5M&feature=player_embedded

Best Regards,
Displatec Team

just a google translate:
The G & R Drag Racing has become very prominent in the year 2009 in preparation for the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. Throughout the year, the workshop trainer Rodrigo Corbisier was invaded by several copies, which received different stages of preparation. The EVO is a car extremely versatile. Deriavada bolides built for the Rally, has great stability offered by the intelligent 4x4 traction, a great suspension and also good brake system. In its ninth version, the Japanese bolide is equipped with the Mitsubishi 4G63 engine, which has 4-cylinder 16V head and turbo-compressor, and is capable of delivering power 283cv! No less than 143cv per liter motor!
Eyes on the excellent results obtained by Bob in various EVO prepared throughout the year, "Moskito" the city of Manaus (AM), brought his EVO VIII, 2005, to G & R Drag Race to Receive an extreme preparation. Even with kits supplied ready for that car, Rodrigo built by hand the exhaust manifolds, intake, and also the new intercooler, scaled to the new desired power for the car. EVO has also received a hybrid turbo from Precision Turbo, 6765 model Billet. The meteorite, which now burning alcohol, use 4 injectors Ford Racing 150lbs/he a recalibration in the injection system, made by a module of American AEM Power. With 3.2kg pressure turbo, the EVO has yielded no less than 1033.7hp the engine, a new record of power for 4-cylinder engines in the dynamometer Sapinho Cambios!
The more than Evo 1000hp can be seen running through the streets of Manaus and will participate in some competitions sprint!
The team congratulates the preparer DragsterBrasil.com Rodrigo Corbisier for this achievement. "

Good morning,

We would like to show our aluminium 7075 flywheel for Coupe:



It just weight 3.5kg and were developed for a 500cv Coupe. Here in Brazil it's used on drag race cars and street cars. Anything just ask.

Best regards,
Displatec Team.

did anyone ever get anywhere with this... still havent seen review after months of posts. i need a new clutch asap.

Get a Helix

See JBT

UP !! :D:D

Good morning,

Displatec developed a new multi disc clutch system. A mult disc with japonese carbon discs.

Here I show our add for brazilian magazines:




Best regards,
Displatec Team.

Can you translate that add?

Good afternoon,

The add says:

- Carbon fiber discs;

- Top in transmission technology, from F1 tracks for your car

- An huge level of strength and performance through a unique methodology of weaving random fiber discs

- Total torque transfer

- All parts are manufactured and assembled in a restricted environment quality control

- Specifications flexibility of manufacture for the client

- Do not need any modification / adaptation for use


Anything just ask.


Best regards,
Displatec Team

If anyon needs anything about clutch we are here !! lol

Hy, I cant contact you via your web page so maybe you still read this thread
I'm interested in multi plate clutch. I have a Coupe 20vt, soon mapped around cca 650bhp and cca 700+nm. On old setup (460bhp), one plate clutch could not hold the power
Push clutch system is no problem to convert for me.
But, Coupe is a daily driver so clutch must be street friendly, juddering and similar symptoms is something that I don't want.

Dealer here in Croatia ask for 1300e (1800$) for Helix twin plate, it is not cheap so I ask you do you have something interesting?

sorry for bad english
Cheers