there was another result too, there was
0-100 4,8 sec
0-160 10,9 sec
0-200 16,8 sec

so 100-200kmh is 12.0 sec

still thats easy to beat ..

one more result was found:

seems that 100 - 200kmh with E46 M3 is around
12.0 -13.4 sec

Would be also quite handy if we could post 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile times

i thought a m46 m3 0-62 was 4.7 seconds and 0-100 mpg 11.7 which makes it bloody quick.
i borrowed my uncles e46 m3 csl for a month and its was quite a bit quicker than my skyline at the time which was running 320bhp and that again was quite a bit quicker than my stage one coop.
i would surgest you would need about 300 bhp to keep with one rolling and 360bhp to try a keep up with one off the line.
then the handle and brakes to compare with so really a well set up 360bhp coop driven well to keep up from standing or around a track.

but thats not the point of this and lets face it a decent e46 m3 will set you back 15k compared to a coop. lukes car for example would really bother a e46 and his can be bought for 4.5k!

if i was to buy something for that money i would get something like johns's car for 10k and save 5 for running the car for a year lol.

I doubt you would see any real difference in a 0-60 time between a 300bhp coupe and a 360 bhp coupe on road tyres. The issue is the FWD traction not the power.

I've owned a very well setup 20VT running over 340 bhp, and driven an E46 M3 several times now. When rolling the 20vt was noticeably faster (and feels it from the turbo kick) - but it would not destroy the M3 by any means. It would also keep up in the corners on a track - with the driver pushing hard, and getting the most from the car, but would not be much faster overall with the M3 making up time on the brakes and getting the power down earlier.

On bumpy lanes the M3 would romp away with the 20vt bouncing everywhere on the coilovers.

A very good e46 M3 will set you back 12K now, not 15.

I prefered my 20vt overall though - but as I said you would need to be running 400bhp+ to really pull away from the BMW, and the extra power will not help you in the corners - if anything the extra lag from a big turbo will do quite the opposite.

the reason i maybe think it would run away from the coop in the coners as it was a csl m3!
a standard m3 maybe not then.

well i have been looking but reall a low milage e46 whichis say 7 years old is still about 15k.
i would rather buy a 15k m3 and know it won't break than risk a 12k m3 and worry about stupid bmw labour rates lol.

A good friend of mine just bought an immaculate one for 12K - 02 plate. There are specialists for them.....

M3 csl by all accounts is a different animal - having not driven one I can't comment first hand though.

ok fair enough prices must have dropped. i would like one.
i love the csl but don't think its worth the extra money over a standard m3.

those figures are taken from magazine tests
so they are correct, not what manufacture claims

possibly a slightly nieve comment....

hello i forgot to mention i am running just under 400bhp

i have been looking at 1/4 mile times on an m3 e46 and have noticed that they are only getting mid 13 seconds and i did manage a 13.2 @ 0.9bar of boost unmapped and my car is now mapped to 1.5bar all the way to the redline on a gt3071r,car is very capable of mid 12's now mapped

if you are running close to 400bhp, then you WILL seriously embarrass a stock E46 M3, especially once rolling. With the correct technique, you'll also beat it on a standing start (although the M3 driver will have far less chance of fluffing it)

Surely you should be considering an entry to this year's Ten of the Best?

Only a small detail....

well i am just getting my other engine rebuilt at the moment nigel and hopefully it should be done in time for

totb,so should be joining you and leighton there,also i forgot to mention my car is stripped and has only one

purpose,nigel i remember you saying in a thread on tyres that you use toyo t1r's and dont get no spin in

2nd,well i upgraded to these cos i had no traction when running my gt28rs and they solved that problem,well

once leighton mapped my car with the gt30 on it,my car wheel spins coming on to boost in 2nd now but will still

say that tyres are so important.

It's good to hear you want to be in TOTB as well Are you doing anything with it being stripped out i.e. rollcage

i dont really want a roll cage as it is more weight,but im not really interested in the track though

i beg to differ in the nicest possible way with suba not westcoupe. my freind works for sitner bmw he has brought home many e46 m3s and iv had a few comparisons in my 249.6 bhp coupe
hard top im v slightly faster on the move 40mph+ soft top i pull slightly more on it close though so a 400 break coupe will totaly TROUNCE a std e46 m3 on the move it would be a total walk over more power less weight.
I don't care if anyone doubts this if they do they are wrong.
my coupe ran 1/4 mile in 13.9 a e46 will do that im sure but will lauch better

wow seems 0-60-100 mph launch is of great intrest. Its getting a more 20VT v/s M3 thread.

250 bhp 0 - 103mph 13.92 at pod though, good surface
so im sure std coupe will do 14.6
NEW focus rs in new autocar mag 0-100 13.9 apparently

0-anything means nothing in real world performance, just top trumps figures...

agreed there 60-100 means alot more in real world unless on a drag strip

Mine does 0-60 in 3.7 seconds and makes E46 M3's look ridiculous. Standard trim only an air filter and a remap.
Top speed around 200mph.

Ok ok it's not a coop!
http://www.lanciahf.eu/TEMP/Corvette/ma_Z.jpg

I'm not too keen on this either anymore. You're much better off taking each 10mph increment and working out the distance travelled over that time by using simple acceleration/distance formulas. I'll give you accurate distance travelled for any increment, for just about any car you could want numbers for. If I can't, I'll find them

I noticed the 5.7 0-60mph and 13.9 0-100mph for the new Focus RS today in this weeks Autocar also. 300bhp and 1467kgs is not too hot though the handling will surely be something else. A 280bhp coop you have the measure of one in a straight line IMO.

I am, but only because it works in the Coupe's favour.

You can do 60-100 in the coupe on boost all the time without changing gear, but some cars may require a gear change or be well out of their peak power band at the start of it.

Just checked my Gtech RR results from last year, 0-60 MPH in 5.067 secs.

30-70 or 30-100mph is a good indicator, cos it takes out the whole 1st gear wheel spinning issue. Also 30-70 is usually v. close to the 0-60 figure and easy to replicate on a decent dual carriagewa. Autocar recorded an impressive 5.4 sec 30-70 figure IIRC.

I agree... 30-70 would be a great measure of a coops performance!! Might try it today, as it is LEGAL

Nick

Thing is, you really NEED a Vbox Performance Box to ensure that your speed is accurate. Of course this means that you'll also have increment data recorded every tenth of a second.

Forum, purchqse one and then hire a decent run way. We can get good numbers for all cars, and I can then run ALL of the number through the calculator for 0-400m and 0-1000m times and terminals.

The best measure of a cars performance, is to find out who is in front after x seconds or metres, from x speed.

I can do this if I have good numbers.